Wallshadows wrote on Dec 29, 2012, 08:29:
You guys are angry now, just wait until Ridley finds a way to bridge Blade Runner in to the Alien universe!

Noomi Rapace is replaced with Harrison Ford in the sequel.

Trevellian wrote on Dec 28, 2012, 21:37:
Just because I enjoyed a movie that you did not, does not make me uncultured. It's ridiculous to even insinuate such a thing. You're just being insulting for the sake of being insulting.

Trevellian wrote on Dec 28, 2012, 21:37:

1badmf wrote on Dec 28, 2012, 21:12:
it was frankly shocking how much better KoH director's cut was compared to the theatrical release.

as for prometheus, i hafta agree with dades - it wasn't a salvageable script. just because it had a bit of subtlety thematically doesn't overcome the incredibly braindead plot or characters. a great movie can't be that flawed and still be great. trev you imply that those of us that didn't like it, simply didn't understand it. i hafta say, dude, it wasn't that difficult to grasp at all, and it still sucked. big donkey dick. if you thought it was that complex, maybe it's you that needs to expose yourself to more art and culture, and eventually you'll see that its subtext end up being more insulting than enriching.

Just because I enjoyed a movie that you did not, does not make me uncultured. It's ridiculous to even insinuate such a thing. You're just being insulting for the sake of being insulting.

1badmf wrote on Dec 28, 2012, 21:12:
it was frankly shocking how much better KoH director's cut was compared to the theatrical release.

as for prometheus, i hafta agree with dades - it wasn't a salvageable script. just because it had a bit of subtlety thematically doesn't overcome the incredibly braindead plot or characters. a great movie can't be that flawed and still be great. trev you imply that those of us that didn't like it, simply didn't understand it. i hafta say, dude, it wasn't that difficult to grasp at all, and it still sucked. big donkey dick. if you thought it was that complex, maybe it's you that needs to expose yourself to more art and culture, and eventually you'll see that its subtext end up being more insulting than enriching.

Dades wrote on Dec 28, 2012, 20:12:

Trevellian wrote on Dec 28, 2012, 19:00:
The movie was terrible to you, not people who understood it, it's intentions and where it was to lead. Once again, opinions. I never went into Prometheus expecting it to directly link up to Alien at the end because I knew that was what he was avoiding.

Sure opinions but Prometheus is not exactly a complex or difficult to understand film. Plenty of people saw the unsubtle allegories and symbolism but still didn't like it because as Jerykk mentioned, it was filled with inconsistencies and had the usual Damon Lindelhof script treatment. Prometheus was almost a large budget B flick as a result of that and the cutting room, the differences between the theatrical and extended are jarring.

- DADES - This is a signature of my name, enjoy!

Trevellian wrote on Dec 28, 2012, 19:00:
The movie was terrible to you, not people who understood it, it's intentions and where it was to lead. Once again, opinions. I never went into Prometheus expecting it to directly link up to Alien at the end because I knew that was what he was avoiding.

Jerykk wrote on Dec 28, 2012, 18:10:
Aliens shooters are extremely stale. We've already had AvP Jaguar, AvP PC, AvP2, AvP 2010, Alien Trilogy, Aliens Online and Alien Resurrection. In each one, the marine experience is pretty much the same. Colonial Marines looks no different in that regard.

If you're going to make a game using the Alien franchise, you need to do something interesting with it. The Alien RPG had potential but it was cancelled. CM doesn't look compelling at all.

The game looks great period, regardless of your opinion. There have always been hybrid aliens, and multiple kinds of Aliens, where you get this random fucking concept that there is 1 type of alien is beyond me, there are Warriors, Queens, Drones, Facehuggers, Aliens from dogs look different and move different. Prometheus introduced the fact there is even more evolution in the time period between it and the original Alien movie as well. It's been in all the movies, it's canon. The bottom line is, you don't dictate what is canon, Ridley Scott does. He had plenty of input on this game working WITH Gearbox, so if it's in there, guess what, it's now Canon.

You probably shouldn't mention Prometheus in relation to Alien canon. Prometheus had so many logic holes and inconsistencies that there's no way to tie it to Alien without breaking everything. Secondly, of the four Alien films (excluding the AVP films), Scott was only involved in the first one. There were no colonial marines in Alien. James Cameron's Aliens is clearly the inspiration for Colonial Marines and thus, his input would be the most relevant. However, he hasn't been involved with the game at all. Also, Scott didn't even provide input on the game either. Some Gearbox people were apparently invited to look at the Prometheus script but that's it. Since Prometheus was terrible and has an extremely tenuous connection to the Alien franchise, getting a sneak peek at the script doesn't mean much.

In conclusion: Prometheus sucked and Ridley Scott is not the sole authority on Aliens canon.

The game looks great period, regardless of your opinion. There have always been hybrid aliens, and multiple kinds of Aliens, where you get this random fucking concept that there is 1 type of alien is beyond me, there are Warriors, Queens, Drones, Facehuggers, Aliens from dogs look different and move different. Prometheus introduced the fact there is even more evolution in the time period between it and the original Alien movie as well. It's been in all the movies, it's canon. The bottom line is, you don't dictate what is canon, Ridley Scott does. He had plenty of input on this game working WITH Gearbox, so if it's in there, guess what, it's now Canon.

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Dec 28, 2012, 13:57:

Trevellian wrote on Dec 28, 2012, 13:17:
I have high hopes for it, but only because Borderlands 2 proved they had learned their lesson on the PC as far as interface and graphics options. That and they have some of the best drop in drop out gameplay on Steamworks with BL2 and are supposedly sticking with that system for this Aliens game. I'm ready to go bug hunting for sure.

...are you being sarcastic? The Borderlands 2 PC interface was STILL horrible. Not quite as bad as BL1, but close. It was basically the console interface ported over. Last I checked it still has bugs if you scroll fast through the inventory. Are you playing with a gamepad or something?

On top of that the multiplayer was buggy for quite some time after release in BL2, it's somewhat tolerable now, but they still had the port issue right after release.

More on topic: This game looks like it would have been great, if they hadn't gone with off canon aliens, and a 4 player limit. Oh well. Bargain bin at best.