Bakker's stuff is full of geo-political claptrap and dumb shit like demon rape though.

Verno wrote on Dec 20, 2012, 12:05:
I'm surprised, most people I've talked loved the first few books and found it quickly delved into "extreme" territory. Personally I found it a belabored affair of immature torture porn fetishisms and straight up madness like the evil chicken.

Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 20, 2012, 11:31:

Verno wrote on Dec 20, 2012, 09:56:
He's the most disturbingly misogynistic writer I've seen since Terry Goodkind.

Goodkind does come off that way a bit, but his writing style has a "pop music" type effect, very easy to read. Not the best in the world, and not for everyone but I read the entire "The Sword of Truth" series... *shrug*

Verno wrote on Dec 20, 2012, 09:56:
He's the most disturbingly misogynistic writer I've seen since Terry Goodkind.

InBlack wrote on Dec 20, 2012, 07:18:
Oh yeah, someone mentioned the "Prince of Nothing" series. I cant praise it highly enough. Really. A lot of the worldbuilding is taken from real world history, even more so than Martin's Ice and Fire but I consider that a good thing, especially given the context of the books.

I honestly consider the "Prince of Nothing" and the 20 year later sequels better books than anything George Martin wrote. People have been comparing Bakker to Martin a lot, but Martin could learn a thing or two from the younger author...especially something about pacing...

Verno wrote on Dec 19, 2012, 15:04:
Just random shit I've read (or reread) in the past few months

...

Armor by John Steakley (mil/sci-fi)
Rendevous with Rama, Arthur C Clarke (classic sci-fi first contact)

Verno wrote on Dec 19, 2012, 15:04:

PHJF wrote on Dec 19, 2012, 11:52:
And I'm looking for novels to read. I just finished The Passage, which was OK at best (being a sort of Stephen King pop novel but without his level of quality). I also just read Rainbows End and A Fire Upon the Deep. Can anyone comment on the quality of the followup novel(s) to AFUtD? I'm going to read Point Counter Point right now but I like to keep scifi books in the rotation.

Just random shit I've read (or reread) in the past few months

Hull Zero Three, Greg Bear (cerebral Sci-fi)
The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch (fantasy, the sequel blows FYI)
Ship of Fools by Richard Paul Russo (sci-fi/horror)
Armor by John Steakley (mil/sci-fi)
Rendevous with Rama, Arthur C Clarke (classic sci-fi first contact)

I finally got around to The Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons too and loved it. People tell me he becomes crazy in later books but oh well. A lot of people like Aleister Crowley too but I couldn't get into his stuff.

Tehol wrote on Dec 20, 2012, 02:19:
i want to pitch in....:)
i suggest r scott bakker's prince of nothing trilogy and brom's child thief. they are dark and gritty if you are into this and glen cook is always good.

Creston wrote on Dec 19, 2012, 15:46:

Verno wrote on Dec 19, 2012, 15:04:
I finally got around to The Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons too and loved it. People tell me he becomes crazy in later books but oh well. A lot of people like Aleister Crowley too but I couldn't get into his stuff.

Hyperion was okay. Fall of Hyperion is fantastic. The Endymion ones... I'm not sure what to think. They aren't bad, per se, but they are so different from Hyperion, and in the last book he goes crazy with the sick torture porn.

Creston

1badmf wrote on Dec 19, 2012, 16:56:
i don't remember him writing a vampire novel, but that might've been one of his earlier horror novels that i haven't gotten to yet.

Mordecai Walfish wrote on Dec 19, 2012, 18:40:
I didnt see this anywhere on the site, but nVidia released the official WHQL 310.70 drivers a couple days ago, which strangely enough are ~50mb smaller than the non-whql version I previously got. Maybe this one is 64-bit only and the other had both.. i dunno ^_^

Anyway, link here (64-bit): http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/54625#