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Frontier Layoffs

Frontier Developments has laid off 14 of the U.K.-based studios' 223 staff, reports Eurogamer, confirming the news with Frontier after a tweet suggesting this cast doubts upon their ongoing Elite: Dangerous Kickstarter and another critical of the timing of layoffs in the holiday season. "Frontier regretfully has given a total of 14 people (from a staff of 233) notice that their roles are redundant, across art (9), animation (3) and audio (2) disciplines. This is due to the changing mix of skills requirements for our current and future projects - it is not a reflection on the company's prospects, which remain healthy," Eurogamer was told by Frontier managing director David Walsh. "Once we took the decision to make the roles redundant, we felt it was better that the affected people knew ASAP so they can plan any further expenditure over the Christmas period accordingly and focus on their search for new roles as soon as possible. We have provided redundancy arrangements in excess of the minimum. We are actively recruiting to shift the balance of skills we have within the company to enable us to deliver the set of projects currently in development."

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23. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 18, 2012, 14:40 Wikidd
 
But at least you'd have been PAID for those two weeks over the holidays.

If they were given redundancy, they were paid. They also said they provided redundancy in excess of the minimum. In UK law that's one week pay for every year of work with two years needed to qualify. Decent firms that go beyond the minimum usually go for something like something between two to four weeks for every year with one year or six months minimum.

So it's shit but not that shit.
 
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22. Re: nothing to see here, move along Dec 18, 2012, 01:05 Prez
 
Rigs wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 22:29:
nin wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 18:17:
Aaaaaand your new account is on the twit filter...

Mine too...


=-Rigs-=

Yeah, me too. I used to find his silly ramblings cute when he was Space Captain, but now it's just gotten old, like he's trying too hard.
 
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21. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 18, 2012, 00:45 Orphic Resonance
 
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo  
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20. Re: nothing to see here, move along Dec 17, 2012, 22:29 Rigs
 
nin wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 18:17:
Aaaaaand your new account is on the twit filter...

Mine too...


=-Rigs-=
 
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19. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 19:55 Orphic Resonance
 
oh no please no

btw thanks for letting me know - that information is so valuable to me

now i can cry myself to sleep over it
 
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18. Re: nothing to see here, move along Dec 17, 2012, 18:17 nin
 

Aaaaaand your new account is on the twit filter...


 
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17. nothing to see here, move along Dec 17, 2012, 18:01 Orphic Resonance
 
winter solstice.. yay! the sunlight is coming back - our crops will thrive again

BUY A BUNCH OF SHIT ITS GOOD FOR YOU AND THE REST OF THE WORLD! BUYING SHIT MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND!

jesus loves you, he let himself get murdered so you can have a sweet sweet afterlife as long as you kiss his ass and live for his name alone

happy holidays
 
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16. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 17:31 Prez
 
I guess it would depend on how you view Xmas. If it's just another holiday for you then it probably makes no difference if you lose your job before during or after. For lots of people, however, it is an extra special festive time that is full of tradition and happiness. For someone like that, having a huge damper on your spirits because of a layoff sucks majorly and makes it extra painful. I used to love Xmas but the commercialism and massive over-marketing killed it long ago for me. My wife and daughter still love it though, and if I had gotten laid off right before I would wait until after the holidays to tell them so as not to spoil what is a wonderful and special time for them.  
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15. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 17:29 SlimRam
 
Lady perhaps? *counting heads* and Gentlemen, allow me to paraphrase a bit here, ahem:

"My name is David Braben and i'd like to take FULL CREDIT for creating the hugely popular PC title 'Elite'. There was the other fuck-face named....uh....Ian...oh shit what was his name...oh yes Ian Bell, but he's not really important..it's ALL about me. I have rode the success of this title since the 80's and i'm STILL RIDIN' HARD!

I needed MONEY people...LOTS OF IT! Soooooo I basically hired 14 people randomly off the street to fill in slots, called my company 'Frontier Developments' (which was honestly just ME all along) and started a kickstarter. Well, you cheap fucks haven't apparently noticed the the God before you and my pubic funding is failing.

Unfortunately I am now going to fire the 14 homeless people that I hired and will be calling it 'restructuring'. PLEASE don't worry, 'Frontier Developments' will continue doing what it has been doing with the money that we have....and that would be nothing.

Thanks for the laughs (mainly to the bank) and the fish (god rest you Douglas Adams)".

David 'Davie B' Braben
 
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14. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 16:59 ASeven
 
Cutter wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 16:52:
Creston wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 14:32:
The Half Elf wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 13:14:
Creston as someone who was recently let go in Nov. I'm glad I was let go before the holidays as I would have spent money that I thought I had coming in for the holidays. It's not a matter of blowing money, it's a matter of suddenly not having a steady source of income that was expected.

Alright, fair enough. I would call my (previous) boss a fucking asshole for firing me two weeks before Christmas.

Creston

Well, it's a shitty deal no doubt but better to know immediately. Beside I'd wager they'll be getting some form of severance package anyway. At least knowing in advance helps you plan accordingly.

True. It sucks either way but it's best to plan ahead and not spend money you won't have on the holidays rather than come from a festive holiday mood and be hit with the reality.
 
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13. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 16:52 Cutter
 
Creston wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 14:32:
The Half Elf wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 13:14:
Creston as someone who was recently let go in Nov. I'm glad I was let go before the holidays as I would have spent money that I thought I had coming in for the holidays. It's not a matter of blowing money, it's a matter of suddenly not having a steady source of income that was expected.

Alright, fair enough. I would call my (previous) boss a fucking asshole for firing me two weeks before Christmas.

Creston

Well, it's a shitty deal no doubt but better to know immediately. Beside I'd wager they'll be getting some form of severance package anyway. At least knowing in advance helps you plan accordingly.
 
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12. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 16:37 Eirikrautha
 
DangerDog wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 15:55:
...they got too greedy with this kickstarter, it should have made funding right now for a sinlge player only, graphical updated Elite. If it sold well then start your lofty MMO style Elite.

Ahhh, but they weren't trying to make an Elite game from kickstarter funds. They were trying to make quick cash to prop-up their finances while possibly attracting publisher attention. There's no way they could get publisher interest in a single-player space game. So they pitched a MMO, hoping to get the short-term funding plus publisher nibbles... and look what they have now...
 
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11. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 16:35 NKD
 
DangerDog wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 15:55:
they got too greedy with this kickstarter, it should have made funding right now for a sinlge player only, graphical updated Elite. If it sold well then start your lofty MMO style Elite.

Taking an old game and updating the graphics isn't really a compelling project that gets developers blood pumping. In fact I think that's probably the biggest snoozefest I can think of as a developer. Can't really stretch your legs.
 
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10. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 15:55 DangerDog
 
This isn't going to get funded but if it did with most everything being procedural based you wouldn't need a ton of art and animation people, audio is pretty sparse too.

when this kickstarter fails it'll be back to business making ipad games.

they got too greedy with this kickstarter, it should have made funding right now for a sinlge player only, graphical updated Elite. If it sold well then start your lofty MMO style Elite.

Same thing with that "Populous" remake GODUS, update the graphics and kick it out the door.
 
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9. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 14:32 Creston
 
The Half Elf wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 13:14:
Creston as someone who was recently let go in Nov. I'm glad I was let go before the holidays as I would have spent money that I thought I had coming in for the holidays. It's not a matter of blowing money, it's a matter of suddenly not having a steady source of income that was expected.

Alright, fair enough. I would call my (previous) boss a fucking asshole for firing me two weeks before Christmas.

Creston
 
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8. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 13:39 Parallax Abstraction
 
Bhruic wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 12:29:
There are lots of reasons to cast doubts on E:D, but them laying off, what, 6% of their staff? doesn't seem like one of them.

Maybe this will then. As tweeted by Introversion Software. The company's finances are in fact not healthy at all. Frontier is primarily a work-for-hire developer in a similar vein as Eurocom who recently went bankrupt after 25+ years in business because publishers are dropping low to mid grade projects like rocks right now. This is partially because we're at the end of a console cycle and also because people have finally smartened up and largely stopped buying low end titles that were slapped together in 10 months for $60. Some of Frontier's work-for-hire games were apparently pretty good so quality may not be their issue but I'd wager they've had some projects yanked out from under them. The shoddy way their Kickstarter was first presented reeked of a project created out of desperation and those financial figures would seem to indicate that. If the project fails, there will probably be a much bigger round of layoffs. Not that I want to see Frontier fail but backing a project that seems to have been thrown together at the last minute in order to save the company is a project that I would say comes with a lot more risk to backers than others might.
 
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7. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 13:14 The Half Elf
 
Creston wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 11:36:
Cutter wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 11:22:
Creston wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 10:48:
I love how the managing director tries to spin firing someone two weeks before Christmas as a beneficial thing FOR THE EMPLOYEE.

I'd have punched the asshole in the TEEF! if he'd said that to me.

Creston

Actually I'd have to agree with them. It'd be shittier going out blowing out all kinds of money over the holidays only to come back and then find out you don't have a job. It's like pulling off a band-aid, just get it over with. Why do these guys have so many people in the first place?

But at least you'd have been PAID for those two weeks over the holidays. Now you have zero money, and thus no options whatsoever. If someone is dumb enough to blow more money than his paycheck is worth over the holidays, he deserves all the misery that entails.

Creston

Creston as someone who was recently let go in Nov. I'm glad I was let go before the holidays as I would have spent money that I thought I had coming in for the holidays. It's not a matter of blowing money, it's a matter of suddenly not having a steady source of income that was expected.
 
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6. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 12:29 Bhruic
 
There are lots of reasons to cast doubts on E:D, but them laying off, what, 6% of their staff? doesn't seem like one of them.  
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5. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 11:47 SpectralMeat
 
Layoff is shitty news no matter when you get it imo  
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4. Re: Frontier Layoffs Dec 17, 2012, 11:36 Creston
 
Cutter wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 11:22:
Creston wrote on Dec 17, 2012, 10:48:
I love how the managing director tries to spin firing someone two weeks before Christmas as a beneficial thing FOR THE EMPLOYEE.

I'd have punched the asshole in the TEEF! if he'd said that to me.

Creston

Actually I'd have to agree with them. It'd be shittier going out blowing out all kinds of money over the holidays only to come back and then find out you don't have a job. It's like pulling off a band-aid, just get it over with. Why do these guys have so many people in the first place?

But at least you'd have been PAID for those two weeks over the holidays. Now you have zero money, and thus no options whatsoever. If someone is dumb enough to blow more money than his paycheck is worth over the holidays, he deserves all the misery that entails.

Creston
 
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