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47. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Dec 1, 2012, 13:30 Dades
 
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 30, 2012, 08:25:
Libs are just as responsible as republicans are, economically in a lot of ways more so due to policy. Speaking of the blame game Dades, if I remember correctly, it's been the liberals blaming Bush for every issue in the world going on 5 years now. Hypocrite much?

Funny how "Republicans are responsible" too but all you complain about is liberals. I'm not a liberal by the way but there is nothing hypocritical about people who point out that wars started under republican administrations have cost this country $1,398,455,385,704 and counting since 2001.

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46. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 30, 2012, 08:25 RollinThundr
 
Dades wrote on Nov 29, 2012, 22:18:
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 29, 2012, 16:01:
Do I think there's quite a few members in the GOP who shoot themselves in the foot for being anti gay? Yes I do, let the fuckers marry already and focus on the actual REAL issues we face.

Course then you have the completely far left socialists douchebags who believe birth entitles them to a life.

Liberals 50 years ago: "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

Liberals today: "Being born automatically makes me entitled to everything. Gimmie free healthcare, gimmie free college education. Down with corporations! (Except for Facebook, Twitter, Apple and Starbucks) Down with Capitalism! Forgive my student debt. Eat the rich! If you don't have the same beliefs as me you are part of the problem! Occupy Wall Street!!!1

More liberal blame, what a surprise same old party lines. The liberals are responsible for everything bad and its ok for you to keep harping about it if you make some token comment about being ok with gay marriage Rolleyes

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Libs are just as responsible as republicans are, economically in a lot of ways more so due to policy. Speaking of the blame game Dades, if I remember correctly, it's been the liberals blaming Bush for every issue in the world going on 5 years now. Hypocrite much?
 
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45. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 29, 2012, 22:18 Dades
 
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 29, 2012, 16:01:
Do I think there's quite a few members in the GOP who shoot themselves in the foot for being anti gay? Yes I do, let the fuckers marry already and focus on the actual REAL issues we face.

Course then you have the completely far left socialists douchebags who believe birth entitles them to a life.

Liberals 50 years ago: "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

Liberals today: "Being born automatically makes me entitled to everything. Gimmie free healthcare, gimmie free college education. Down with corporations! (Except for Facebook, Twitter, Apple and Starbucks) Down with Capitalism! Forgive my student debt. Eat the rich! If you don't have the same beliefs as me you are part of the problem! Occupy Wall Street!!!1

More liberal blame, what a surprise same old party lines. The liberals are responsible for everything bad and its ok for you to keep harping about it if you make some token comment about being ok with gay marriage Rolleyes

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44. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 29, 2012, 16:27 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 29, 2012, 16:08:
"somehow limited pie."

Dude, wait, what? How is it not limited? That you think its infinite proves you have zero economics background.


And how do I recite some liberal playbook? What talking points do I match them on? 0% corporate taxation?

I think you misunderstand what I'm trying to get across, and that is kinda on me for wording it the way I did. The gist is, anyone can be successful regardless if they start rich or not. Sure it's way easier having connections or having means to fall back on out of the gate. But to put forth this argument that poor people need always stay poor and live off the government tit because those mean 1%'ers won't share is flat out bullshit and I'm sick of the class warfare. Instead do something constructive, preach personal responsibility instead.

You continually go to the same liberal talking points all the time, class warfare and how far more important it is to redistribute their wealth rather than not go fucking bankrupt by out of control spending, gay rights/social injustices, and the message that conservatives are just mean and hateful.

As if believing in personal responsibility is this evil fucking thing, or not sharing the notion that people are owed a life out of the womb is so old school and not progressive enough that that too is wrong and evil.

Bottom line I don't want to see the US end up another Greece, and at the rate we're going, it'll be under a decade before we're there.
 
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43. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 29, 2012, 16:08 Beamer
 
"somehow limited pie."

Dude, wait, what? How is it not limited? That you think its infinite proves you have zero economics background.


And how do I recite some liberal playbook? What talking points do I match them on? 0% corporate taxation?
 
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42. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 29, 2012, 16:01 RollinThundr
 
Dades wrote on Nov 28, 2012, 22:21:
Actually I've only ever seen you blame democrats. Saying that you blame republicans because people correctly label you biased and actually doing more than lip service in assigning blame are different matters. You're a broken record with the antagonistic leftie liberal crap and it's why people dismiss you out of hand. No one is going to take you or your position seriously if you can't meet them halfway and do the same without being insulting. It's really endemic of the problems down there in general, confrontational all or nothing politics with no room for reasonable people and rational thoughts.

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Both parties are lobbied massively, something that should be made illegal to begin with. Both parties love spending money on pet projects and pork tossed into bills.

The major difference is economically you have variations in different camps, the social liberals like Beamer who even though he continually proclaims he isn't a liberal, pretty much cites the liberal playbook word for word every time a thread goes political, who believe that the rich are hoarding this somehow limited pie and need to make up for it by taking from said rich people to give to people who generally aren't motivated enough to make for themselves. As an example if I started a successful company tomorrow that made 250k in profit in it's first year, somehow I would be stealing some 1%'ers wealth because it's limited you know. The US can apparently only handle so much people being successful at once or some shit like that.

Then you have fiscal conservatives, not even necessarily republicans who understand economics enough and realize you can't spend out of control and print money like the world is going to end tomorrow and not expect consequences down the road regardless of which party is doing the spending.

I would love to meet halfway and cut spending while fixing tax loopholes and increasing the country's income. Unfortunately when you suggest things like that, people like Beamer start tossing out all these social injustices in regards to homosexuals and the like that have zero to do with economy in the first place as a way to divert the discussion away from our government spending us into bankruptcy or at the idea of reducing the size of government oversight on everything when states are capable of regulating their own respective states.

Do I think there's quite a few members in the GOP who shoot themselves in the foot for being anti gay? Yes I do, let the fuckers marry already and focus on the actual REAL issues we face.

Course then you have the completely far left socialists douchebags who believe birth entitles them to a life.

Liberals 50 years ago: "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

Liberals today: "Being born automatically makes me entitled to everything. Gimmie free healthcare, gimmie free college education. Down with corporations! (Except for Facebook, Twitter, Apple and Starbucks) Down with Capitalism! Forgive my student debt. Eat the rich! If you don't have the same beliefs as me you are part of the problem! Occupy Wall Street!!!1
 
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41. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 28, 2012, 22:21 Dades
 
Actually I've only ever seen you blame democrats. Saying that you blame republicans because people correctly label you biased and actually doing more than lip service in assigning blame are different matters. You're a broken record with the antagonistic leftie liberal crap and it's why people dismiss you out of hand. No one is going to take you or your position seriously if you can't meet them halfway and do the same without being insulting. It's really endemic of the problems down there in general, confrontational all or nothing politics with no room for reasonable people and rational thoughts.

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40. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 27, 2012, 12:59 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 27, 2012, 12:36:
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 27, 2012, 12:29:
Beamer wrote on Nov 27, 2012, 12:14:
Republicans are the victim, per RollinThundr. They aren't losing ground because they've recently embraced the absolute lunatic fringe of the American Midwest, choosing to make a big deal out of issues like gay marriage and choosing the wrong side on issues that matter to growing minorities, or ignoring the beliefs of new generations by assuming young people don't vote (which becomes problematic when you continue viewing Generation X as "young people,") no, they are losing ground because liberals indoctrinate the youth.

Because it's all liberals faults. Republicans are just victims.
And because the youth never, ever fell more liberal than conservative. Who ever heard of such a thing?!


Oh brother, who called them victims? Says the guy who thinks we can just spend indefinitely and it won't affect anything at all. Or the guy who supports the party that rewards illegals with bennies rather than making them become legal the right way. Remember kids if your for immigration reform you're racist.

Yeah it's when they grow up and learn something about how real life works, that they realize fiscal responsibility is an actual good thing.

Seriously Beamer I'm tired of the song and dance, poor gays, poor illegals yada yada yada. When we're fucking bankrupt in under 10 years because neither party wants to stop spending us into oblivion, gay rights and minorities won't matter a shit.

When did I ever say "indefinitely?" I said spending is less important than distribution of wealth. And it is. We need to be very concerned with how much our citizens are spending, which is the gas that fuels our economy. Burning a deficit isn't really terribly problematic. Again, it isn't good, but it isn't the end of the world.

Also, I've said to you a hundred times stop calling me a Democrat. I do not support that party. More than Republicans? Yeah, but so did the Electoral Congress, overwhelmingly. Also, tell me what is the "legal way," for people in this country to naturalize? I do believe, though, that your grammatical error in discussing immigration is amusing.

Shut up about fiscal responsibility. How could the party that refuses to raise taxes be fiscally responsible? It does not work. Again, you only look at half of an equation. It's absurd! You think that wanting to cut costs means fiscally responsible, yet somehow not wanting to increase income is still fiscally responsible. Wanting to increase income without cutting costs as much is not fiscally responsible.
There is no logic behind this.

I never said anything about immigrants, I said appealing to what a growing percentage of the country finds important. Guess what: that's immigration.

You have ZERO economic understanding. It's frightening. I bet you don't even know what the current rating of US debt is. I bet you don't know how it's changed historically. I'll bet you have no clue what a credit rating actually means.
You keep beating the same drum without ever demonstrating an understanding. Worse, you think someone saying it's the wrong drum to beat, that there are more important ones, means they're directly opposed to it.

Whatever, dude. Warren Buffet wrote a nice piece yesterday essentially saying what I keep saying. You just sit there and feel smarter than him.



As for the victim piece, because you're blaming people other than Republicans for the loss. You're still doing it. You're still blaming gays and immigrants, not that the party doesn't appeal to them and that their voice is actually one that people care about. Republicans lost this not because people are stupid. Those people ARE the US. Always have been. Republicans lost because they're too stupid to understand this. The fault is solely Republicans', not whomever you feel you'd rather point a finger at. Too many of their leaders are looking for blame and not looking in the mirror, which is funny, as they're also the "personal accountability" party.

I blame both parties for bringing us to the cliff, I've said that over and over and over again. Where do you get blame out of anything I said? It's not homosexuals that are spending us into bankruptcy, no one said they were, the illegals do tie into it however, what is so wrong about becoming a US citizen the right way? Why should people who are here illegally be not only allowed to stay but do so on the tax payer's dime? How the hell does that even make sense?

I've said before I'll take Buffet seriously when he starts paying the millions in back taxes he owes or rather his company owes.

I've also told you time and time again I'm not against raising taxes as long as the spending is massively cut. You have to compromise somewhere, Reagan got this, Clinton got this, Obama does not. We've had 4 years of blaming the Republicans for all the world's woes when it's both parties fucking off. It's dishonest. When's the last time you saw Obama take responsibility for one single thing? C'mon man.
 
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39. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 27, 2012, 12:36 Beamer
 
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 27, 2012, 12:29:
Beamer wrote on Nov 27, 2012, 12:14:
Republicans are the victim, per RollinThundr. They aren't losing ground because they've recently embraced the absolute lunatic fringe of the American Midwest, choosing to make a big deal out of issues like gay marriage and choosing the wrong side on issues that matter to growing minorities, or ignoring the beliefs of new generations by assuming young people don't vote (which becomes problematic when you continue viewing Generation X as "young people,") no, they are losing ground because liberals indoctrinate the youth.

Because it's all liberals faults. Republicans are just victims.
And because the youth never, ever fell more liberal than conservative. Who ever heard of such a thing?!


Oh brother, who called them victims? Says the guy who thinks we can just spend indefinitely and it won't affect anything at all. Or the guy who supports the party that rewards illegals with bennies rather than making them become legal the right way. Remember kids if your for immigration reform you're racist.

Yeah it's when they grow up and learn something about how real life works, that they realize fiscal responsibility is an actual good thing.

Seriously Beamer I'm tired of the song and dance, poor gays, poor illegals yada yada yada. When we're fucking bankrupt in under 10 years because neither party wants to stop spending us into oblivion, gay rights and minorities won't matter a shit.

When did I ever say "indefinitely?" I said spending is less important than distribution of wealth. And it is. We need to be very concerned with how much our citizens are spending, which is the gas that fuels our economy. Burning a deficit isn't really terribly problematic. Again, it isn't good, but it isn't the end of the world.

Also, I've said to you a hundred times stop calling me a Democrat. I do not support that party. More than Republicans? Yeah, but so did the Electoral Congress, overwhelmingly. Also, tell me what is the "legal way," for people in this country to naturalize? I do believe, though, that your grammatical error in discussing immigration is amusing.

Shut up about fiscal responsibility. How could the party that refuses to raise taxes be fiscally responsible? It does not work. Again, you only look at half of an equation. It's absurd! You think that wanting to cut costs means fiscally responsible, yet somehow not wanting to increase income is still fiscally responsible. Wanting to increase income without cutting costs as much is not fiscally responsible.
There is no logic behind this.

I never said anything about immigrants, I said appealing to what a growing percentage of the country finds important. Guess what: that's immigration.

You have ZERO economic understanding. It's frightening. I bet you don't even know what the current rating of US debt is. I bet you don't know how it's changed historically. I'll bet you have no clue what a credit rating actually means.
You keep beating the same drum without ever demonstrating an understanding. Worse, you think someone saying it's the wrong drum to beat, that there are more important ones, means they're directly opposed to it.

Whatever, dude. Warren Buffet wrote a nice piece yesterday essentially saying what I keep saying. You just sit there and feel smarter than him.



As for the victim piece, because you're blaming people other than Republicans for the loss. You're still doing it. You're still blaming gays and immigrants, not that the party doesn't appeal to them and that their voice is actually one that people care about. Republicans lost this not because people are stupid. Those people ARE the US. Always have been. Republicans lost because they're too stupid to understand this. The fault is solely Republicans', not whomever you feel you'd rather point a finger at. Too many of their leaders are looking for blame and not looking in the mirror, which is funny, as they're also the "personal accountability" party.
 
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38. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 27, 2012, 12:29 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 27, 2012, 12:14:
Republicans are the victim, per RollinThundr. They aren't losing ground because they've recently embraced the absolute lunatic fringe of the American Midwest, choosing to make a big deal out of issues like gay marriage and choosing the wrong side on issues that matter to growing minorities, or ignoring the beliefs of new generations by assuming young people don't vote (which becomes problematic when you continue viewing Generation X as "young people,") no, they are losing ground because liberals indoctrinate the youth.

Because it's all liberals faults. Republicans are just victims.
And because the youth never, ever fell more liberal than conservative. Who ever heard of such a thing?!


Oh brother, who called them victims? Says the guy who thinks we can just spend indefinitely and it won't affect anything at all. Or the guy who supports the party that rewards illegals with bennies rather than making them become legal the right way. Remember kids if your for immigration reform you're racist.

Yeah it's when they grow up and learn something about how real life works, that they realize fiscal responsibility is an actual good thing.

Seriously Beamer I'm tired of the song and dance, poor gays, poor illegals yada yada yada. When we're fucking bankrupt in under 10 years because neither party wants to stop spending us into oblivion, gay rights and minorities won't matter a shit.
 
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37. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 27, 2012, 12:14 Beamer
 
Republicans are the victim, per RollinThundr. They aren't losing ground because they've recently embraced the absolute lunatic fringe of the American Midwest, choosing to make a big deal out of issues like gay marriage and choosing the wrong side on issues that matter to growing minorities, or ignoring the beliefs of new generations by assuming young people don't vote (which becomes problematic when you continue viewing Generation X as "young people,") no, they are losing ground because liberals indoctrinate the youth.

Because it's all liberals faults. Republicans are just victims.
And because the youth never, ever fell more liberal than conservative. Who ever heard of such a thing?!

 
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36. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 27, 2012, 12:04 RollinThundr
 
Verno wrote on Nov 27, 2012, 10:40:
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 26, 2012, 16:07:
Shitty as it is, it's not really false. I actually find it pretty disgusting that American citizens would rather side with known terrorist organizations like Hamas because they hate the one ally we have in the middle east.

No sorry, you made that silly comment and you get to own it. Don't try to pass off that shit as somehow reasonable or remotely accurate. It is exactly the kind of ridiculous crap that makes people dismiss the right out of hand and one of the many reasons we're losing ground politically. Shit like that is killing the party.

How do you figure? Are you going to tell me you've never read a single post from a liberal (and trust me, you need not go further than MSNBC's site to find a ton of them)calling how evil Israel is and how they should just give everything to Palestine? Or comparing Israel to Nazi Germany?

Republican's are losing ground politically because liberals have done a fantastic job of indoctrinating children and rewriting history with a liberal slant for the past 40 years. So now you have all the morons who were taught that the government knows best all coming out of the woodwork in support of becoming another Greece without having a god damn clue what they're talking about or how much damage they're doing to the US both financially and just in general.

Let's be honest, I would love for a single person to state anytime in our country's history that we've been more divided than we are now, and we have really no one but the democrats to blame for it with their class warfare, and race baiting game the past 5 years Ad nauseam,that people are so focused on attacking the rich and labeling any Obama dissenter as a racist that they've failed to notice us driving right off the cliff to bankruptcy as a country.
 
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35. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 27, 2012, 10:55 Beamer
 
reisub wrote on Nov 27, 2012, 10:52:
Plus everyone knows the mark of the beast is actually 6-1-6.

I was going to point this out, how it's both numbers, but it's pushing a rock up an infinite hill.
 
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34. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 27, 2012, 10:52 reisub
 
Plus everyone knows the mark of the beast is actually 6-1-6.  
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33. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 27, 2012, 10:40 Verno
 
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 26, 2012, 16:07:
Shitty as it is, it's not really false. I actually find it pretty disgusting that American citizens would rather side with known terrorist organizations like Hamas because they hate the one ally we have in the middle east.

No sorry, you made that silly comment and you get to own it. Don't try to pass off that shit as somehow reasonable or remotely accurate. It is exactly the kind of ridiculous crap that makes people dismiss the right out of hand and one of the many reasons we're losing ground politically. Shit like that is killing the party.
 
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32. Re: More Big Picture Details Nov 27, 2012, 01:26 Prez
 
The "Mark of the Beast" crap is fanatical religious claptrap, but be that as it may at the very least the RFID mandate sounds pretty Orwellian and more than a little unsettling to me.  
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31. Re: More Big Picture Details Nov 26, 2012, 20:24 HorrorScope
 
Dev wrote on Nov 26, 2012, 00:28:
HorrorScope wrote on Nov 25, 2012, 20:15:
If I could really understand how the bars really = 6, yes that could turn me into a full-fledged believer. What are the chances of that number happening like that and how it ties to commerce? I mean that is one in impossible imo.
Here's what the inventor of the UPC says about it:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/l/a/laurergj/UPC/666quest.html

Whether or not that that has anything to do with anything biblical, who knows.

I disagree with the whole mandatory RFID tracking thing on principle, not because it may or may not have anything to do with any 666 number.

Yeah I've read his comments before. Here is a link which I think is more reality. It's 01010 in each of those three places Thin Black, Thin White and Thin Black. 0-1-0-1-0. There is no 6 there, someone is trying to twist this one I feel, but hence I still want someone to really explain how those three areas = 6. I do not see it.

http://www.wikihow.com/Read-12-Digit-UPC-Barcodes

A binary 6 I believe is 110, that is not a match. 2 or A is closest.
So what system are they using 01010 to equal 6?
 
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30. Re: More Big Picture Details Nov 26, 2012, 19:30 HorrorScope
 
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 26, 2012, 14:34:
The White House will no longer take any credit for anything bad that happens in the Middle East.

You mean the same as it ever was? They've been fucked up since my existence with vary slight variation to that. I don't care who's in office.
 
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29. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 26, 2012, 16:07 RollinThundr
 
Verno wrote on Nov 26, 2012, 16:01:
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 26, 2012, 14:34:

I dunno, liberals tend to hate Israel while often siding with factions who would love nothing more than their destruction. I don't think it's too much a stretch really.

This is one of the shittiest things I've ever seen posted on the forums.

Shitty as it is, it's not really false. I actually find it pretty disgusting that American citizens would rather side with known terrorist organizations like Hamas because they hate the one ally we have in the middle east.
 
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28. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Nov 26, 2012, 16:01 Verno
 
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 26, 2012, 14:34:

I dunno, liberals tend to hate Israel while often siding with factions who would love nothing more than their destruction. I don't think it's too much a stretch really.

This is one of the shittiest things I've ever seen posted on the forums, haha wow. You should be ashamed of that trash.
 
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