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Sad about Hostess Brands closing, since it seems to be the result of an insoluble labor conflict, and while strikes often result in threats that they will result in the closure of a company, that rarely seems to actually happen as it has in this case. I find it interesting how many people are going all Tallahassee over the pending Twinkie shortage, however, as they are the poster child for crappy junk food, and I don't know anyone who has eaten one in recent memory, much less actually savors them (labor strife aside, I think if everyone saddened by this actually bought Twinkies, Hostess would be fine). In my opinion, Hostess only ever made one really good product, which was their fruit pies, which I have not seen in a store in over a decade if not longer. I assumed they stopped making them, but I see them on eBay at seemingly exorbitant prices, so I'm not sure if that's due to the Hostess closure, or perhaps they are working off old stock, since these babies are half preservatives anyway (I think it's the latter, as the labels all seem to feature Fruit Pie the Magician, and Wikipedia says he was removed from the packaging in 2006).

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11. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 17, 2012, 16:00 MajorD
 
@Dades: That's not what happened to Hostess anyway, they asked the unions to take a third major concession in 5 years and many of the workers voted against it because they could not afford to take another pay cut. These guys were not auto workers without a high school education making 80k, demanding raises.

Yeah very true, this is a completely different story and set of circumstances, and is unfortunate. I would imagine the corporate heads were using the current unemployment rates to their advantage to create fear/doubt/uncertainty when they asked the unions to take that third major concession you outlined.

There are a lot of markets that have working conditions that practically require unions to avoid corporate abuse but thanks to global trade many companies know they can get chinese workers to do it without that concern.

This is the scary part, as we have enough jobs and manufacturing moving offshore as it is.

@Cutter: When do you ever here about the intransigence and greed of management that's unwilling to bend, take salary or benefit cuts? You know the average CEO now makes 157 times what the average worker makes. 157 times!!! So you should always try to see the other side of the story because almost without fail everyone of these stories almost always tries to lay the blame on working people.

This is a can a worms I didn't open, but you are absolutely right; I see it a lot and hear about it a lot first hand, and it is something that seems to have gotten worse over the years.

 
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