Bhruic wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 21:42:

Orogogus wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 21:28:

Bhruic wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 20:43:
You very likely can find stats that'll demonstrate that GTAIV sold 15 times as many units on XBox/PS3 as the PC. But what those stats also reflect is the 8 month wait time. You can check out games that have simultaneous releases and find that even when the PC comes in 3rd (and it sometimes doesn't), it's usually a close 3rd. There's no reason to suspect that the PC couldn't do equally well with the GTA franchise were it to have a simultaneous release.

I can't think of when that's been the case. 15 times would be an exaggeration, but I want to say it's usually about a 55%/25%/20% split between 360/PS3/PC.

Are you sure this was aimed at me? Because you start off with saying you can't think of when that's been the case, and then list a bunch of examples where what I said is the case.

Those generally don't include PC digital downloads (so everyone's going to immediately say "meaningless"), but it might at least be a bad idea to write off the 80% of retail sales represented by the 2 consoles if you're going to make a hugely expensive game.

Not to mention the above making no sense at all. No one has suggested they release is on PC and don't release it on XBox/PS3. Just that they release on all 3 at the same time.

Orogogus wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 21:28:

Bhruic wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 20:43:
You very likely can find stats that'll demonstrate that GTAIV sold 15 times as many units on XBox/PS3 as the PC. But what those stats also reflect is the 8 month wait time. You can check out games that have simultaneous releases and find that even when the PC comes in 3rd (and it sometimes doesn't), it's usually a close 3rd. There's no reason to suspect that the PC couldn't do equally well with the GTA franchise were it to have a simultaneous release.

I can't think of when that's been the case. 15 times would be an exaggeration, but I want to say it's usually about a 55%/25%/20% split between 360/PS3/PC.

Those generally don't include PC digital downloads (so everyone's going to immediately say "meaningless"), but it might at least be a bad idea to write off the 80% of retail sales represented by the 2 consoles if you're going to make a hugely expensive game.

Bhruic wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 20:43:

Madguy wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 20:04:
This is probably going to be one of the most expensive games ever made, if not THE most expensive. Since they'll likely sell 15 times as many units on the Xbox/PS3 as they would the PC, those consoles need to be their target platform. That's where the resources need to go.

You very likely can find stats that'll demonstrate that GTAIV sold 15 times as many units on XBox/PS3 as the PC. But what those stats also reflect is the 8 month wait time. You can check out games that have simultaneous releases and find that even when the PC comes in 3rd (and it sometimes doesn't), it's usually a close 3rd. There's no reason to suspect that the PC couldn't do equally well with the GTA franchise were it to have a simultaneous release.

Madguy wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 20:04:
This is probably going to be one of the most expensive games ever made, if not THE most expensive. Since they'll likely sell 15 times as many units on the Xbox/PS3 as they would the PC, those consoles need to be their target platform. That's where the resources need to go.

Sempai wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 19:33:
The models look like they belong on a playstation 2.
Congratulations Rockstar for not supporting a platform that would compliment your game, instead you put it on 7yr old hardware that looks like shit.

I'm sure after you've reaped your sales by trying to force customers to buy it on xbox, you'll then double dip by pushing it out the door onto the PC crowd a year later.

Dickbags.

Sempai wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 19:33:
The models look like they belong on a playstation 2.
Congratulations Rockstar for not supporting a platform that would compliment your game, instead you put it on 7yr old hardware that looks like shit.

I'm sure after you've reaped your sales by trying to force customers to buy it on xbox, you'll then double dip by pushing it out the door onto the PC crowd a year later.

Dickbags.

xXBatmanXx wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 19:16:

nin wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 19:05:

At times I can't even tell who the main character is. Do we play multiple characters?

Those 3 at the end, around the chopper. And you can switch from one to the other at almost any time. Some missions may let you start with one char, and then switch to another, if you like.

Cool. Hope that allows for multiple branches.

nin wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 19:05:

At times I can't even tell who the main character is. Do we play multiple characters?

Those 3 at the end, around the chopper. And you can switch from one to the other at almost any time. Some missions may let you start with one char, and then switch to another, if you like.

At times I can't even tell who the main character is. Do we play multiple characters?

siapnar wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 13:15:
Watched it again for the 6th time.

Awesome fuckin trailer

Cutter wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 12:32:
If you don't know what you're getting with GTA at this point then you've clearly never played the other games. Shit, this series was the only reason I got an 360 in the first place. So yeah, I'm down like a clown Charlie Brown. I'm going to play the shit of this and enjoy the shit out of it.

"So we're boucing now?' Haha!

theyarecomingforyou wrote on Nov 14, 2012, 12:02:
Just as I feared, the graphics look terrible. They really should have waited for the next-gen consoles, as they could have still released X360/PS3 versions with shitty graphics. The trailer doesn't give us any idea of what the gameplay is like, which is a concern after GTAIV. And the lack of a PC version puts this firmly in the "don't give a shit" category.

Bounce......were're bouncing now?