Suppa7 wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 23:49:

Ant wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 23:16:

Suppa7 wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 22:34:

Ant wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 12:27:
When was that? I remember the author changed master server or something. Look at kali.net.

The server lists for any game (quake 3, etc) don't work for some reason on both of my computers, I tried opening ports on router, etc, nothing seems to work, I can connect to CHAT servers fine but the server lists for games doesn't work and I have no clue why.

My Kali client told me that I haven't updated since 2005-11-4-1! So I checked the game servers lobbies. Sheesh, they're empty!

Can you ping servers at all (quake 3)? At least I'll know if it is truly dead or not on my end.

Ant wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 23:16:

Suppa7 wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 22:34:

Ant wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 12:27:
When was that? I remember the author changed master server or something. Look at kali.net.

The server lists for any game (quake 3, etc) don't work for some reason on both of my computers, I tried opening ports on router, etc, nothing seems to work, I can connect to CHAT servers fine but the server lists for games doesn't work and I have no clue why.

My Kali client told me that I haven't updated since 2005-11-4-1! So I checked the game servers lobbies. Sheesh, they're empty!

Suppa7 wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 22:34:

Ant wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 12:27:
When was that? I remember the author changed master server or something. Look at kali.net.

The server lists for any game (quake 3, etc) don't work for some reason on both of my computers, I tried opening ports on router, etc, nothing seems to work, I can connect to CHAT servers fine but the server lists for games doesn't work and I have no clue why.

Ant wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 12:27:
When was that? I remember the author changed master server or something. Look at kali.net.

eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 21:24:
I never got how anyone could play this with a joystick, you can't strafe with it properly, so joystick users were my favorite targets in the school LAN event (12 players) you always knew who they were because when you strafed around them they couldn't hit shit unless they stopped moving.

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Suppa7 wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 11:33:

Ant wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 09:52:

Suppa7 wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 09:42:

Ant wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 08:41:
I remember playing time limited Decent 1 demo's multiplayer on Kali.

Kali days rocked *brofist*

Ya. *brofist back* BTW, Kali is sort of alive today, but not popular like it used to be.

Last time I checked the server lists didn't work properly.

Ant wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 09:52:

Suppa7 wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 09:42:

Ant wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 08:41:
I remember playing time limited Decent 1 demo's multiplayer on Kali.

Kali days rocked *brofist*

Ya. *brofist back* BTW, Kali is sort of alive today, but not popular like it used to be.

Suppa7 wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 09:42:

Ant wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 08:41:
I remember playing time limited Decent 1 demo's multiplayer on Kali.

Kali days rocked *brofist*

Ant wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 08:41:
I remember playing time limited Decent 1 demo's multiplayer on Kali.

Suppa7 wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 04:36:

Orogogus wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 01:07:
On top of all that, I feel the game favored people who had a joystick with a hat switch, which was never a huge majority of PC gamers. I'm sure there are people who did great with mouse and keyboard, but I dunno; the one guy in my dorm who had the fancy Logitech stick just kept slaughtering the rest of us.

I was a originally a keyboard player and no, playing with a joystick in descent is lot harder then playing with a mouse and keyboard. It has a huge learning curve, only when you achieve mastery can you compete with peolpe who use mouse and keyboard.

The mouse still is equal to the joystick for descent, what ticks off FPS players is the ships physics that doesn't have 'instant' turning so they can't just flick 180 degree's instantly. People like easy games. Descent is basically one of the most manliest videogames on the planet because fighting in 3D is fucking hard and anyone who picks up descent deserves props for that alone!

TheVocalMinority wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 06:29:

Suppa7 wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 22:01:

The real problem is the guys behind descent had crappy game design skills and basically stumbled into success. Descent 3 ended up selling poorly because they had no idea what they were doing. Levels were too big, getting rid of mines was a bad idea because you could no longer pace the action properly.

I picked up Descent 3 from GOG a while back and had a blast with it. Started off using joystick which is what I used way back when in the original but found mouse was a lot better this time. Unfortunately I came up against a boss I couldn't beat, the homunculus, apparently he is made a lot nastier by the higher FPS.

Suppa7 wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 22:01:

The real problem is the guys behind descent had crappy game design skills and basically stumbled into success. Descent 3 ended up selling poorly because they had no idea what they were doing. Levels were too big, getting rid of mines was a bad idea because you could no longer pace the action properly.

Fibrocyte wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 05:24:
You might be right. I remember Descent being incredible when it was first released and I had a great time with it. I know I won't get that feeling back by touching any of the old Descents again.

I wish the fan team luck but I doubt they'll bring that feeling back.

Closed Betas wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 15:18:
somethings are better left as great memories in the back of my mind.. I think this will be one of them.

Orogogus wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 01:07:
On top of all that, I feel the game favored people who had a joystick with a hat switch, which was never a huge majority of PC gamers. I'm sure there are people who did great with mouse and keyboard, but I dunno; the one guy in my dorm who had the fancy Logitech stick just kept slaughtering the rest of us.

Orogogus wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 01:07:

Suppa7 wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 22:01:

Closed Betas wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 15:18:
somethings are better left as great memories in the back of my mind.. I think this will be one of them.

Descent 2 multiplayer has to be one of the top 10 gaming experiences of all time. There is nothing like fully 3D multiplayer battles in a contained space/arena like Descent.

The real problem is the guys behind descent had crappy game design skills and basically stumbled into success. Descent 3 ended up selling poorly because they had no idea what they were doing. Levels were too big, getting rid of mines was a bad idea because you could no longer pace the action properly.

The terrain system was a giant wash because weapons in descent were designed for small scale battles inside arenas, not for huge distance outside flying. So descent 3 ended up failing at retail. Not to mention FPS games have basically encapsulated vehicular shooters making them redundant, people want things like Halo and Just cause and GTA where you can just have a world and choose to be man with a gun or jump in a vehicle. Being restrained to vehicles would never wash with a modern audience of a large size I don't think.

Reality is descent was also newbie unfriendly, most FPS gamers got slaughtered because they can't handle true 3D movement. That's why first person shooters caught on - they were easier to control and jump into then descent.

Descent being fully 3D gave people motion sickness as well. So it had a few things going against it.

On top of all that, I feel the game favored people who had a joystick with a hat switch, which was never a huge majority of PC gamers. I'm sure there are people who did great with mouse and keyboard, but I dunno; the one guy in my dorm who had the fancy Logitech stick just kept slaughtering the rest of us.

Suppa7 wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 22:01:

Closed Betas wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 15:18:
somethings are better left as great memories in the back of my mind.. I think this will be one of them.

Descent 2 multiplayer has to be one of the top 10 gaming experiences of all time. There is nothing like fully 3D multiplayer battles in a contained space/arena like Descent.

The real problem is the guys behind descent had crappy game design skills and basically stumbled into success. Descent 3 ended up selling poorly because they had no idea what they were doing. Levels were too big, getting rid of mines was a bad idea because you could no longer pace the action properly.

The terrain system was a giant wash because weapons in descent were designed for small scale battles inside arenas, not for huge distance outside flying. So descent 3 ended up failing at retail. Not to mention FPS games have basically encapsulated vehicular shooters making them redundant, people want things like Halo and Just cause and GTA where you can just have a world and choose to be man with a gun or jump in a vehicle. Being restrained to vehicles would never wash with a modern audience of a large size I don't think.

Reality is descent was also newbie unfriendly, most FPS gamers got slaughtered because they can't handle true 3D movement. That's why first person shooters caught on - they were easier to control and jump into then descent.

Descent being fully 3D gave people motion sickness as well. So it had a few things going against it.