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16. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 12, 2012, 09:55 avianflu
 
Very well said budrojr, especially about just simply waiting for the 20% off price 2 months after release. There's always another game to play in the meantime.

I would add one other factor for consoles. The current AAA games kinda all look the same now (often using the Unreal engine for one thing) so there's little to marvel at when a new AAA game comes out. If anything, games look and play worse these days on the PS3 (i.e. Skyrim). So for console gamers, there more and more reason to be less and less excited about new games that cost 60 bucks.
 
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15. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 12, 2012, 09:37 budrojr
 
RailWizard wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 15:31:
lol PC gaming is dying, oh no wait it's consoles!

The real headline is Gaming is Dying and it's because 'they' are giving gaming the Las Vegas treatment where the house always wins. Money has always been a factor, but now it's the only factor.

Came here to say this, and was glad to see it's the very first comment.

A lot of games seem to be designed these days with obvious pieces missing, so they can protect new sales or make additional sales from DLC. In addition, game prices fall so quickly once the initial rush is over for the latest blockbuster that it only makes sense to wait a little while for lower prices, package deals, or GotY editions which include all the DLC at a fraction of the cost. All this with the general feeling that games are rushed out the doors these days with all kinds of quality issues and bugs, and not as many people are ready to be early adopters anymore.

I don't think consoles are dying, and I don't think game sales are truly slowing down. I think gamers are see a cost advantage to putting off purchases and waiting until developers truly polish their games.

If they'd offer better incentives to pre-order or day one purchasers, more people might spring for the new games when they come out. If I'm only going to be rewarded with some stupid poster or in-game decal for being an early adopter, I'll just wait until they release a few patches and the price drops to $29.99 somewhere so I can afford the DLC which is needed to make the game feel more complete.
 
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14. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 12, 2012, 01:39 Bhruic
 
bhcompy wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 20:00:
3 years past due? Not yet. The last few iterations have been just as long.

PSX - 1994
PS2 - 2000
PS3 - 2006

Ok, I'll bite:

XBox - 2001
XBox360 - 2005

So as it's 2012, it is, in fact, 3 years past the iteration cycle for the XBoxes. With an admittedly small sample size.
 
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13. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 11, 2012, 23:06 bhcompy
 
killer_roach wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 20:17:
Prez wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 20:14:
Wow, time can really play tricks on the memory. I never would have guessed off the top of my head that there has been 6 years between each generation.

The PS1 only came out in Japan in 1994 - it was released in the US in 1995 (after the SNES was released in 1990 and 1991 in those regions), and the PS3 was often considered to be released a year late in the current generation, as the Wii and Xbox 360 both came out in 2005.

And the PS3 clearly outclasses the Wii and generally outpaces the 360 in performance. Late for the generation, but not suffering for it hardware wise.
 
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12. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 11, 2012, 22:40 necrosis
 
I think console gaming is dieing because people are wising up to the crap they are shoveled.

Makes me sad when I look back at the good PC franchises destroyed because of developers dumping them down for your average idiot console player.
 
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11. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 11, 2012, 21:57 Mashiki Amiketo
 
Silicon Avatar wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 18:51:
CNN is dying. Netcraft confirmed it.
Hah. So do their nielsen ratings.
 
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10. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 11, 2012, 21:30 Fantaz
 
""People aren't as motivated by cutting-edge graphics as they once were," says Paul Neurath, creative director at Zynga, makers of "FarmVille," "Mafia Wars" and other social games on Facebook."

What a bunch of crap... Why would you listen to some guy from Zynga? This article was written by casual/social gaming nuts.
 
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9. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 11, 2012, 20:17 killer_roach
 
Prez wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 20:14:
Wow, time can really play tricks on the memory. I never would have guessed off the top of my head that there has been 6 years between each generation.

The PS1 only came out in Japan in 1994 - it was released in the US in 1995 (after the SNES was released in 1990 and 1991 in those regions), and the PS3 was often considered to be released a year late in the current generation, as the Wii and Xbox 360 both came out in 2005.
 
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8. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 11, 2012, 20:14 Prez
 
bhcompy wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 20:00:
ledhead1969 wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 16:02:
Console gaming isn't dying...it's just 3 years past due date on current hardware. They wanted to stretch this generation for the sake of $$ and this is what you get. No shit sales are down people don't want to be bothered with 10 year old technology.

3 years past due? Not yet. The last few iterations have been just as long.

PSX - 1994
PS2 - 2000
PS3 - 2006

Some of the console defining games for PS2 and PSX were released at or after the release date of the next console. Currently on track for a 2014 release for PS4/Xbox720, so you're looking at 2 years longer than the average cycle, not already 3 years past due.

Wow, time can really play tricks on the memory. I never would have guessed off the top of my head that there has been 6 years between each generation.
 
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7. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 11, 2012, 20:00 bhcompy
 
ledhead1969 wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 16:02:
Console gaming isn't dying...it's just 3 years past due date on current hardware. They wanted to stretch this generation for the sake of $$ and this is what you get. No shit sales are down people don't want to be bothered with 10 year old technology.

3 years past due? Not yet. The last few iterations have been just as long.

PSX - 1994
PS2 - 2000
PS3 - 2006

Some of the console defining games for PS2 and PSX were released at or after the release date of the next console. Currently on track for a 2014 release for PS4/Xbox720, so you're looking at 2 years longer than the average cycle, not already 3 years past due.
 
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6. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 11, 2012, 18:51 Silicon Avatar
 
CNN is dying. Netcraft confirmed it.  
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5. Re: More Big Picture Details Nov 11, 2012, 18:03 HorrorScope
 
Sony sure isn't healthy right now. I have no idea what Nintendo is doing. I guess we have the 720 to look forward to, but they restrict more then they embrace. And seemingly try to force me to like what they want me to like instead of supplying me with things I like.

Perhaps as gamers mature they realize the computers are running better then ever, easier to manage and find a better experience there as it synergizes well with all their other social pc needs (and mobile). Or perhaps they found themselves a girlfriend.
 
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4. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 11, 2012, 16:33 Mashiki Amiketo
 
Tablets are dying, you got it here before it was news!

(Though I have no problem with consoles dying, and hard.)
 
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3. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 11, 2012, 16:08 Prez
 
Smartphones are dying! You read it here first!  
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2. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 11, 2012, 16:02 ledhead1969
 
Console gaming isn't dying...it's just 3 years past due date on current hardware. They wanted to stretch this generation for the sake of $$ and this is what you get. No shit sales are down people don't want to be bothered with 10 year old technology.  
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1. Re: Sunday Consolidation Nov 11, 2012, 15:31 RailWizard
 
lol PC gaming is dying, oh no wait it's consoles!

The real headline is Gaming is Dying and it's because 'they' are giving gaming the Las Vegas treatment where the house always wins. Money has always been a factor, but now it's the only factor.
 
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