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18. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 12, 2012, 10:38 Verno
 
A friend of mine returned his Surface after not even a week due to all of the compatibility issues with ARM apps and RTs inability to run desktop apps so *shrug*. Surface Pro might be great but I suspect the price tag will be bonkers.

Also uh of course they have backwards compatibility, that should be a given, not something they get credit for thinking was a good idea.
 
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17. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 12, 2012, 10:27 Flo
 
I have win 8 installed on my machine for about 3 months now. I am a power user (.net Programmer) and gamer.

-fast
-rock solid Performance
-missing start menu -> dont care (win + X)
-all games work as in win 7
-Metro -> dont care

Two weeks ago we bought a Samsung ativ tablet with win 8 (x86) and now whenever I use an Ipad i'm thinking: how the hell can anyone do stuff with this apple garbage? Win 8 is not just Microsoft coming late to the tablet Party, it is crushing all the other android, iOS products out there.

Even Win RT is superior to an iPad (Network shares, multiple user profiles, file explorer out of the box, Docking apps)

In my opinion they did a hell of a Job merging all the "legacy" code with a Slick new tablet UI, but nobody seems to realise that providing backwards compatibility for millions of devices and applications is a big deal...


 
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16. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 12, 2012, 09:44 Verno
 
Narf2029 wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 23:28:
I decided Win 8 was a failure once I started seeing the upgrade packs at a lower price than student editions of Win 7. I think the local Micro Center is selling Win 8 upgrade packs for like $40. If they get any cheaper they might as well give them away.

They sold a bunch of copies (like ~3mil) but it was for $15 so its no surprise. People were basically just buying it to disable Metro and treat it like a cheap copy of Windows 7.
 
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15. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 12, 2012, 05:54 shihonage
 
... still waiting until Microsoft fires the woman responsible for Office 2007/2010 and Windows 8 UI "revolutions". I keep forgetting her name, but then, that's how she should end up - forgotten.  
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14. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 12, 2012, 04:10 J
 
ASeven wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 21:53:
I've been receiving some reports that Win8 is doing abysmal in sales. MS is going to get hurt with this one, more than it did with Vista. Hell, if my sources are correct we're talking of a WindowsME type of abysmal.
It's like 9/11 times 1000!
 
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13. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 12, 2012, 00:26 Nucas
 
mag wrote on Nov 12, 2012, 00:21:
Narf2029 wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 23:28:
I decided Win 8 was a failure once I started seeing the upgrade packs at a lower price than student editions of Win 7. I think the local Micro Center is selling Win 8 upgrade packs for like $40. If they get any cheaper they might as well give them away.

That was the launch price, not a price cut due to poor sales. Preemptively priced, expecting poor sales, maybe. But, not indicative of actual sales.

i think MS appreciates they need to get as many people onboard as possible or they're fucked.

among our demographic uptake isn't exactly skyrocketing, but 2% is honestly a lot more than i expected for october considering it was only available for 5 days.
 
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12. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 12, 2012, 00:21 mag
 
Narf2029 wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 23:28:
I decided Win 8 was a failure once I started seeing the upgrade packs at a lower price than student editions of Win 7. I think the local Micro Center is selling Win 8 upgrade packs for like $40. If they get any cheaper they might as well give them away.

That was the launch price, not a price cut due to poor sales. Preemptively priced, expecting poor sales, maybe. But, not indicative of actual sales.
 
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11. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 11, 2012, 23:28 Narf2029
 
I decided Win 8 was a failure once I started seeing the upgrade packs at a lower price than student editions of Win 7. I think the local Micro Center is selling Win 8 upgrade packs for like $40. If they get any cheaper they might as well give them away.  
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10. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 11, 2012, 22:48 Dades
 
Nucas wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 21:25:
the "apps" he mentions are weather, travel, news and finance, which are just portal apps to web content, which is ad supported. you see ads if you go to bbc.co.uk or weather.com, too.

You can use whatever label you want but the fact is that they put ads in the main display of the default apps. Go look at the music app too, its full of ads. That's some tacky crap you would expect from a startup, not Microsoft. Metro is a hard enough sell without even more shit. Ads in the shitter are next, I'm sure someone is working on that somewhere.

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9. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 11, 2012, 21:53 ASeven
 
I've been receiving some reports that Win8 is doing abysmal in sales. MS is going to get hurt with this one, more than it did with Vista. Hell, if my sources are correct we're talking of a WindowsME type of abysmal.  
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8. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 11, 2012, 21:25 Nucas
 
the "apps" he mentions are weather, travel, news and finance, which are just portal apps to web content, which is ad supported. you see ads if you go to bbc.co.uk or weather.com, too.  
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7. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 11, 2012, 21:18 Mordecai Walfish
 
"Absolutely. To me a PC is really just a smartphone in another form factor."

Stopped reading about at this point..
 
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6. Re: More Big Picture Details Nov 11, 2012, 19:31 HorrorScope
 
I thought next years Intel chips, next-gen were really going to drop the power down to ARM levels and then beat them up with performance? There is a counter argument that it may work the other direction.  
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5. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 11, 2012, 17:51 Julio
 
Another reason to avoid Win8, if there weren't enough already. No thanks to advertising on my PC OS.

Win 8 = Adware
 
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4. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 11, 2012, 16:41 Mashiki Amiketo
 
Ozmodan wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 15:39:
I am happy that ARM based chips are doing well and providing a competitive marketplace. On the other hand, the chance that ARMS will be in gaming computers any time soon is a pipe dream. Intel has pushed AMD almost out of the marketplace and is also making strides in energy efficiency. I am not a big Intel fan, but it has to be obvious to anyone the huge lead they have in processing power.
Really, Intel is more energy efficient per watt than ARM chips are at workload. The only place where ARM beats Intel is at idle, where both Intel and AMD are catching up very quickly. Some stuff here and here on it.

I don't see ARM for a gaming based PC anytime soon, it's kind of like cyrix chips back in the 90's, they were for everyone who wanted a simple PC on the cheap.
 
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3. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 11, 2012, 16:27 jdreyer
 
Ozmodan wrote on Nov 11, 2012, 15:39:
I am happy that ARM based chips are doing well and providing a competitive marketplace. On the other hand, the chance that ARMS will be in gaming computers any time soon is a pipe dream. Intel has pushed AMD almost out of the marketplace and is also making strides in energy efficiency. I am not a big Intel fan, but it has to be obvious to anyone the huge lead they have in processing power.

If someone anytime soon tells me they have a ARM based gaming computer I am going to laugh at them.

Hmm, they'll be in Ouya...
 
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2. Re: Built-in Windows 8 applications have AIDS. Nov 11, 2012, 16:04 RailWizard
 
Somehow I'm not surprised.  
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1. Re: Sunday Tech Bits Nov 11, 2012, 15:39 Ozmodan
 
I am happy that ARM based chips are doing well and providing a competitive marketplace. On the other hand, the chance that ARMS will be in gaming computers any time soon is a pipe dream. Intel has pushed AMD almost out of the marketplace and is also making strides in energy efficiency. I am not a big Intel fan, but it has to be obvious to anyone the huge lead they have in processing power.

If someone anytime soon tells me they have a ARM based gaming computer I am going to laugh at them.
 
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