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Prez wrote on Nov 7, 2012, 17:16:
Simply put, regenerating health undermines the significance of getting hit. You can essentially get hit an infinite number of times.You just have to make sure you have sufficient breaksbetween hits. I'm still failing to see how that in practice is any different from health packs. You use the same strategy in Doom - take hits, health drains, run and hide. The only difference is that in Doom, you had to tiptoe around until you found a health pack or backtrack to one you found previously but didn't need at the time. The end result was the same, regenning health just gets it done faster. With health packs you can get into a situation where you have too little health to realistically finish the level and have used all of the health packs available meaning you entered what is essentially a fail state and you have to reload a previous save. Again, to my mind regenning health just speeds up the process.
I don't really care which one is used as long as the gameplay is designed well for the health mechanic the developers chose to use. There are different level design considerations with each one. Doom had a finite number of health packs in any given level so you could only heal a finite amount. As a result, you could only take a finite number of hits before being screwed for the rest of the level. With regenerating health, you can heal an infinite amount so it doesn't matter how many times you get hit. It only matters that you don't get hit when you're about to die. Regenerating health also ensures that you start every fight with full health so you never have to think in the long-term. If you know how much damage an enemy does, you can just run up to his face and shoot him until he dies. How much damage you take in the process is completely irrelevant as long as you don't die.
If anything, regenerating health promotes run and gun gameplay more than health kits because getting hit doesn't have any long-term significance.
It's also important to keep save systems out of the equation. With quicksave and/or frequent checkpoints, death doesn't really mean anything so the health system is largely irrelevant. Health systems need to be considered under the assumption that death actually has a significant consequence.
Quicksaves do far more to destroy tension than a properly implemented checkpoint system and they have been a mainstay of PC gaming for over two decades. I agree. Thankfully, you don't have to use quicksave. Checkpoints and regenerating health, on the other hand, are automatic.
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