Creston wrote on Nov 7, 2012, 00:20:

Beamer wrote on Nov 7, 2012, 00:02:
Taxation is a problem. We need to go back to the same marginal tax rates as when we had a strong middle class. People act like it's a recent thing that the middle class is in decline, as if it can happen in 4 years instead of 30.

So you're saying tax rates for the middle class need to be... cut, I guess? I'm not being snide, I'm really not quite figuring out what your gist is.

The middle class really doesn't pay that much taxes. I think my wife and I qualify to be considered middle class, and I pay like 9.5% federal and even less than that in state income tax. Admittedly I'm paying a shitload of money on mortgage interest, so that helps, but even so, I don't really think that lowering the tax rate even further is going to magically pump trillions of dollars into the economy.

What REALLY needs to happen is that all these fucking insane tax cuts for all the corporations need to vanish. Hey, let's give corporation X 180 million dollars in tax cuts so it can go and outsource 40% of its workforce, and then fire another 20% of its workforce here in the US when it makes a loss in one quarter...

(of course, the corporations would just charge their customers to make up for it, so I guess in the end the US citizens will still have to cough all this shit up.)

Also, Donald Trump has now completely lost his mind.

Creston