Verno wrote on Nov 6, 2012, 14:54:

RollinThundr wrote on Nov 6, 2012, 14:31:

jacobvandy wrote on Nov 6, 2012, 13:56:
Lately I've been leaning toward the point of view that Obama being re-elected would be better for us than Romney getting in. The problem with ousting an incumbent is the false perception of change associated with it... That would lead many outraged and outspoken Americans to calm down and stop paying attention to what's really going on, because they assume a change in president will mean a change in policy. "OH YEAH, we kicked him out! Good job fellas, now we can go home..."

Meanwhile, I have zero confidence whatsoever that Romney will do anything substantially different than Obama has been doing. As much as I would like to see it proven that R vs. D doesn't mean a goddamn thing in mainstream politics anymore, it would be too detrimental to the current growing subculture of dissent. So, I hope Obama wins, if only to further stoke the fires burning beneath the feet of the angry mobs. Maybe four more years of his "hope and change" will finally spur some improvements around here.

I think we pretty much know what we're getting with Obama. A big spender who flat out refuses to compromise to get anything done who won't even seriously talk about cuts unless it's military, which is crazy when you're fighting 3 wars essentially. Yet he'll win because he's a better public speaker and more "hip" with the hipsters.

It's simply amazing to me that most Americans seem to not care about the massive amount of debt he's added in just 4 short years. Obama was so critical of Bush adding 4 trillion of debt over 8 years, he just had to top him adding 5 trillion in only 4. Yep let's all vote for Obama, bankrupting the country and selling our souls to a communinst nation in China are wonderful ideals.

I would have to vote with my conscience first and there are too many question marks surrounding the changes Romney wants and what policies he will dismantle. For better or for worse Obama mostly has actual plans for his ideas so it should be no surprise that people are going with the known quantity, no one likes an unknown in politics. I will likely just abstain from voting altogether, it's a cop out but at least I'll feel good about it.

When you're trying to assign blame, look no further than the kooks in our own party who ruined a decent female voter push with rape comments and talk about abortion policy regression.