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8. Re: Morning Tech Bits Nov 1, 2012, 17:32 Creston
 
I like how everyone ignores that MS's wonderful installer gives him the exact same option twice. So either the installer is fucking stupid, or it somehow is reading two of his drives as identical volumes and assigning them the same volume number.

If it's the latter, he's going to have all kinds of fun data loss in the not-so-terribly-far future.

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7. Re: Morning Tech Bits Nov 1, 2012, 17:16 NegaDeath
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Nov 1, 2012, 16:32:
Volume location and identification is one of the most fundamental things blah blah

List out the volume numbers of your drives and partitions but only do it off the top of your head. If we're to replicate his experience then you can't use control panel to look it up.
 
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6. Re: Morning Tech Bits Nov 1, 2012, 16:45 Beamer
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Nov 1, 2012, 16:32:
Beamer wrote on Nov 1, 2012, 15:46:
I don't think there's anything fundamental here, nor is his "mind blown" by the term. His mind is blown that he's given two seemingly identical options that, even if it's a bug and they are identical, don't have a proper explanation. He knows what a volume is, he just does not know what volume 3 is. I don't think it's even slightly unreasonable to expect a user to know what different volumes are without giving any additional information.


Volume location and identification is one of the most fundamental things about an OS install, any OS, and how a bare drive is addressed. Not knowing that, regardless of options presented, is stupid. Especially from a "reviewer" who throws his bona fides out at the beginning of the article in an attempt to establish credibility.

If you want to pander to, and defend, idiots who want to treat their machines like toasters, that's fine. But don't try to pretend that a lack of knowledge is an acceptable default state. It's akin to saying "But I didn't know my car needed to have the oil changed!" You'd call anyone who said that an idiot and this guy is no different.


1) He never said he didn't understand what a volume is, so why are you acting like he did. He's saying he doesn't know what Volume 3 is. Do you know what Volume 3 is? Is there a Volume 1 and a Volume 2?
2) His surprise is less in that it gives a vague name with little information and more that it presents two options without telling you even a hint of what the difference is


You're acting as if he said "derr, what's a volume?" That clearly isn't the case. You either read it wrong our you're desperately looking for fault. Not certain which.

And, lastly:
3) It isn't "pandering" to make an upgrade to a major OS as pain-free as possible. It's knowing your audience. The vast majority of PC users that may be upgrading have no clue what their computer is. Of goddamn course Microsoft should make it as easy as possible!


Go read the article again. Or just what I quoted. You very seriously misread it. Or you're just somewhat unhinged from reality. Whichever.
 
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5. Re: Morning Tech Bits Nov 1, 2012, 16:32 Burrito of Peace
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 1, 2012, 15:46:
I don't think there's anything fundamental here, nor is his "mind blown" by the term. His mind is blown that he's given two seemingly identical options that, even if it's a bug and they are identical, don't have a proper explanation. He knows what a volume is, he just does not know what volume 3 is. I don't think it's even slightly unreasonable to expect a user to know what different volumes are without giving any additional information.


Volume location and identification is one of the most fundamental things about an OS install, any OS, and how a bare drive is addressed. Not knowing that, regardless of options presented, is stupid. Especially from a "reviewer" who throws his bona fides out at the beginning of the article in an attempt to establish credibility.

If you want to pander to, and defend, idiots who want to treat their machines like toasters, that's fine. But don't try to pretend that a lack of knowledge is an acceptable default state. It's akin to saying "But I didn't know my car needed to have the oil changed!" You'd call anyone who said that an idiot and this guy is no different.

 
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4. Re: Morning Tech Bits Nov 1, 2012, 16:04 Beamer
 
NegaDeath wrote on Nov 1, 2012, 16:02:
I couldn't tell you what "volume 3" on my machine would be either. Going by drive/partition letter or assigned name sure, but not number.

Or giving detail on what your volumes are, like you find in the control panel.
 
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3. Re: Morning Tech Bits Nov 1, 2012, 16:02 NegaDeath
 
I couldn't tell you what "volume 3" on my machine would be either. Going by drive/partition letter or assigned name sure, but not number.  
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2. Re: Morning Tech Bits Nov 1, 2012, 15:46 Beamer
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Nov 1, 2012, 15:40:
This was an incredibly stupid article. The author needs to stick with mobile devices if something as fundamental as a "volume" blows his mind.


ctrl-f "volume"

11:02 a.m. Things are getting serious! I now have two options for installation: "Windows 8 on volume 3" or "Windows 8 on volume 3." Yes, they're identical words. I have no idea whether they're identical choices. I go for the first "Windows 8 on volume 3." Oh, and what's volume 3? I presume some partition, but again, this is information most people won't know, and frankly, I can't ever remember seeing any slices of my hard drive called volume 3.

I don't think there's anything fundamental here, nor is his "mind blown" by the term. His mind is blown that he's given two seemingly identical options that, even if it's a bug and they are identical, don't have a proper explanation. He knows what a volume is, he just does not know what volume 3 is. I don't think it's even slightly unreasonable to expect a user to know what different volumes are without giving any additional information.
 
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1. Re: Morning Tech Bits Nov 1, 2012, 15:40 Burrito of Peace
 
This was an incredibly stupid article. The author needs to stick with mobile devices if something as fundamental as a "volume" blows his mind.

 
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