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44. Re: Speaking of heat... Oct 15, 2012, 03:37 eRe4s3r
 
Windows: glass covered holes in walls you can fix with tape and cloth ;p

By the way, I read a funny study where they essentially found that every window is a 10% increase in heating costs. What does that tell us? Windows are a design flaw!
 
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43. Re: Speaking of heat... Oct 15, 2012, 03:03 Ant
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 15, 2012, 02:51:
Hehe, well weather is weather.. I take it as training challenge for whenever climate change changes anything.

I could go into the cellar with my computers, but the cellars here are prone to flooding, And I rather take heat than water.
I prefer basements especially during the hot weather, but yeah floodings would suck. I used to work in a basement during my dotcom days. It was awesome. Who needs windows?
 
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42. Re: Speaking of heat... Oct 15, 2012, 02:51 eRe4s3r
 
Hehe, well weather is weather.. I take it as training challenge for whenever climate change changes anything.

I could go into the cellar with my computers, but the cellars here are prone to flooding, And I rather take heat than water.
 
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41. Re: Speaking of heat... Oct 15, 2012, 01:19 Ant
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 15, 2012, 01:11:
With the energy prices in Germany a full blown AC that could handle summer heat costs more than all my running costs in a month combined. Also there is the problem that you need to open a window (I live on rent, so I can't just make a wall in the hole.. eh, hole in the wall)

32.4C inside ;p | And... the temperature of the wooden window frame (in total sun) measured from the inside = 46.8C
Ah. In Los Angeles/LA, CA, USA, it is expensive too. 40 years old central AC is rarely used until the weather is too hot.

And why the frak is it still about 100F degrees in a few days for L.A. in the middle of October? Ugh!
 
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40. Re: Speaking of heat... Oct 15, 2012, 01:11 eRe4s3r
 
With the energy prices in Germany a full blown AC that could handle summer heat costs more than all my running costs in a month combined. Also there is the problem that you need to open a window (I live on rent, so I can't just make a wall in the hole.. eh, hole in the wall)

32.4C inside ;p | And... the temperature of the wooden window frame (in total sun) measured from the inside = 46.8C
 
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39. Re: Speaking of heat... Oct 15, 2012, 01:03 Ant
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 15, 2012, 00:44:
Same here, you haven't been experiencing heat until you had a PC in the attic during a heat wave ;p
How hot was it up there? No AC?
 
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38. Re: Speaking of heat... Oct 15, 2012, 00:44 eRe4s3r
 
Same here, you haven't been experiencing heat until you had a PC in the attic during a heat wave ;p  
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37. Speaking of heat... Oct 14, 2012, 11:40 Ant
 
http://zimage.com/~ant/about/computers.txt for my current computer setup.

My upstair room always get hot (up to 90F degrees) during the heat waves.
 
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36. Re: Morning Tech Bits Oct 14, 2012, 04:40 eRe4s3r
 
I have 5 fans But 2 of them (the HDD fans) were not part of the case. So yeah. Obviously I don't have heat problems now... that said, the base case setup I got "sold" had no HDD fans and I regretted that very badly on the first day of summer. ~.~  
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35. Re: Morning Tech Bits Oct 14, 2012, 00:43 xXBatmanXx
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 11:38:
1 drive is system drive (500gb) 4 drives are 1TB drives and 2 external 2 TB drives for backup + a 4TB NAS.. I don't think I want to buy larger drives for a while ^^Unless there are 4TB drives...

Not sure why you have a heat issue....add a fan.
 
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34. Re: Morning Tech Bits Oct 14, 2012, 00:42 xXBatmanXx
 
Prez wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 19:52:
5 drives? Comeonman! Buy bigger drives.

If he's like me then it isn't a matter of storage capacity - having multiple drives is for redundancy. I have 8 hard drives inside 3 PC's in my computer room alone.

Yea, but i have 7 in 2 and 1 is SSD and 2 are 2 TB externals.

Heat shold not be an issue.
 
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33. Re: Morning Tech Bits Oct 14, 2012, 00:03 Ant
 
At most I had three IDE/PATA HDDs in a single PC.  
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32. Re: Morning Tech Bits Oct 13, 2012, 22:21 eRe4s3r
 
Prez wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 19:52:
5 drives? Comeonman! Buy bigger drives.

If he's like me then it isn't a matter of storage capacity - having multiple drives is for redundancy. I have 8 hard drives inside 3 PC's in my computer room alone.

Mhh, I come to 12 drives... but unlike many others, I have huge storage needs apparently. Even if there'd be 4TB drives, I would probably only consider upgrading once I am convinced they are not a fad and nothing ever follows up, If we got just by capacity, I'd love to get 2x60TB drives and just throw everything else out. (out of my PC, that is ,p) not out of my general storage.
 
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31. Re: Morning Tech Bits Oct 13, 2012, 22:10 eRe4s3r
 
Man that's gonna be a huge boon to my backup and storage problems.. but since I totally missed 4gb drives, i googled and found some nice read on RAID (that was the first thing I noticed, because my backup isn't raided, rebuild of a 2TB drive, takes "forever" so I opted for a straight mirror backup - one that updates gradually so as to not kill my meager network.

So here are the reads
http://storagegaga.com/4tb-disks-the-end-of-raid/

http://blog.starboardstorage.com/blog/bid/148658/the-death-of-raid

So .. 4GB drives once they go full production (and holy shit, did I see 6TB and 60TB announced?) 1x60TB drive might easily take 10 years to rebuild in the current raid setups.. haha ;p So this will no doubt bring a huge paradigm shift on consumer level raid as well, because you can forget doing anything related to (standard) RAID with a 60TB drive.
 
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30. Re: Morning Tech Bits Oct 13, 2012, 19:52 Prez
 
5 drives? Comeonman! Buy bigger drives.

If he's like me then it isn't a matter of storage capacity - having multiple drives is for redundancy. I have 8 hard drives inside 3 PC's in my computer room alone.
 
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29. Re: Morning Tech Bits Oct 13, 2012, 14:42 SpectralMeat
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 11:38:
I don't think I want to buy larger drives for a while ^^Unless there are 4TB drives...
Yep there are, but they are a bit high in price because they are new and not every manufacturer makes them yet. Probably in the next 6-12 months there will be a bigger selection and lower prices on them.
 
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28. Re: Morning Tech Bits Oct 13, 2012, 11:38 eRe4s3r
 
1 drive is system drive (500gb) 4 drives are 1TB drives and 2 external 2 TB drives for backup + a 4TB NAS.. I don't think I want to buy larger drives for a while ^^Unless there are 4TB drives...  
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27. Re: Morning Tech Bits Oct 13, 2012, 10:28 xXBatmanXx
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 01:19:
My standard for building PC's is now less manual but still 100% custom, I simply go to one of the small PC stores that build PC's, give them my part list and they build it and test that it works right, I just plug HDD's in then and it all works fine. The only problem with that approach is that you need some decent advise sometimes, especially when it comes to cases and GPU (length, connectors, etc.) because I max out the HDD slots in a case, I have 5 HDD drives + DVD and they produce a lot of heat. We are talking without active cooling, these drives get to 50C and heat up everything else.

Yeah, it is probably 20% more expensive, but I value my time I do not spend on building a PC entirely by hand much more than that nowadays ;p The OS setup afterwards is a pain in the ass anyway so I might as well approach that knowing that hardware wise everything works.

I would never buy anything from DELL or any large system builder though. I want to know who specifically built my PC. And I want 100% control over what PARTS are used, exception being the RAM, as long as it works and has the specs I want, I could care less what RAM is used. (I have 16gb)

Forums are great

There are way better cases online for half the price. The right case will do the right job with 3 fans. My rig runs at a cool 31 C, and under max load only gets to 45 C.

5 drives? Comeonman! Buy bigger drives.

 
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26. Re: Morning Tech Bits Oct 13, 2012, 01:19 eRe4s3r
 
My standard for building PC's is now less manual but still 100% custom, I simply go to one of the small PC stores that build PC's, give them my part list and they build it and test that it works right, I just plug HDD's in then and it all works fine. The only problem with that approach is that you need some decent advise sometimes, especially when it comes to cases and GPU (length, connectors, etc.) because I max out the HDD slots in a case, I have 5 HDD drives + DVD and they produce a lot of heat. We are talking without active cooling, these drives get to 50C and heat up everything else.

Yeah, it is probably 20% more expensive, but I value my time I do not spend on building a PC entirely by hand much more than that nowadays ;p The OS setup afterwards is a pain in the ass anyway so I might as well approach that knowing that hardware wise everything works.

I would never buy anything from DELL or any large system builder though. I want to know who specifically built my PC. And I want 100% control over what PARTS are used, exception being the RAM, as long as it works and has the specs I want, I could care less what RAM is used. (I have 16gb)
 
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25. Re: Morning Tech Bits Oct 12, 2012, 20:41 xXBatmanXx
 
PC market collapses ahead of Windows 8 launch.

huh?

Hardware plateaued again - are they confusing those 2 things?
 
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