netnerd85 wrote on Oct 2, 2012, 14:12:
yuastnav wrote on Oct 2, 2012, 13:55:
Generally speaking having traditions is a bad idea because it implants a certain way of thinking and hampers the progression of society.
I disagree strongly. Anyone can create their own family tradition and it shows respect for previous generations. Traditions generally mean something to someone or a group of people. There is a time to let go of old traditions that mean nothing after time.
Thanks giving, Christmas, mothers day, bucks night are all traditions. Are these bad? No way.
Are you just saying traditions are bad because of religious traditions?
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Maybe I am just a bit disillusioned because people hold up traditions very high. What really gets to me is when people use this as an actual argument.
"Why are we doing this?"
"Because it's a tradition, of course!"
NO! This is so irrational and wrong in my opinion. :/
I just don't like this kind of reasoning, so I'm just a bit jaded in that respect. You can have traditions, of course, but there should be at least a reason for why you have this tradition other than that it's a tradition.
I think what I wrote is rather extreme so I take it back a little bit, but I'll stay by saying that there better be a good reason for a tradition other than that it's a tradition.
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Sadly I cannot rationalise all of my reasoning because I actually like christmas but cannot think of any non-religious reason why it should exist.
A holiday for people to get together, have a good time, give each other presents and eat heartily is not a very good reason because everyone should be free to do so on any day they choose so I'm kinda stumped on this one. :/
netnerd85 wrote on Oct 2, 2012, 14:12:
yuastnav wrote on Oct 2, 2012, 13:55:
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As that I am very opposed to the idea of marriage but it doesn't look like it's going away.
Why? What's wrong with marriage? What happened for you not to believe in the idea?
I just find it really strange that people need religious or governmental assurance that they live together. If people want to live together - that's fine! They can even have a ceremony and what not!
But why do people need this assurance?
For example there are people who may only want to live together for a certain amount of time but when they start their relationship they don't know that yet and marrying just adds another unnecessary layer i.e. when they finally find out they don't like each other they need a divorce and this just creates more problems.
Or polygamous relationships. For some reason this is looked down upon in many societies (I myself don't like polygamy but that is just my preference, there is nothing wrong if other people are okay with it) and this also is not encompassed by marriage. And it would also be difficult to do so.
People should be alive to live how they like and with whomever they like, so as long as all parties are comfortable with this arrangement, without having the need of such an, as I see it, artifical reassurance like marriage.
Now we donce.