descender wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 12:13:I have zero idea how anyone could enjoy D3 and find no appeal in TL2. Yeah, they have some differences but at a basic level it's the same game.
Well my Monk gets utterly destroyed on PTR now thanks to the STI debuff. GG Blizzard.
Unfortunately, Torchlight 2 is boring as fuck. I have zero idea what appeal anyone finds in that game.
s1mon75 wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 22:09:Darks wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 12:46:
Its just you, maybe your a boring person.
And you have ascertained this from a few lines written by OP? Or is it that this bloke doesn't agree with you?
At least he isnt a sheep. Bleh bleh back to your herd in case you have original idea.
HorrorScope wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 21:14:
That is why I would like Project Eternity or whatever the name is to be a RPG with Coop. We will do what is needed on our side to make it work. BG's had it etc. What gets my knickers is the SP guy who has a problem with having it as an option. I'm not saying get rid of SP.
HorrorScope wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 21:14:
And there are very very very few non-mmo coop RPG's. Look now Dungeon Lords MMXXII was just released, a coop RPG, lol. Will they get it right this time?
Darks wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 12:46:
Its just you, maybe your a boring person.
Axis wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 21:02:
I don't play co-op, I find it annoying at best - one guy is blasting through content, another is staring at every loot stat for an hour, one is half afk, etc.
HorrorScope wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 19:09:Axis wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 18:38:HorrorScope wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 18:32:
FWIW and honestly, playing TL2 on anything lower then Veteren is basically watching a movie. Their two bottom difficulties are insultingly easy. You deserved to challenge yourself more.
I totally agree man. I do stuff on normal to see if it's worth me putting the time in on higher difficulties. I love a good challenge, always do hardcore characters on games I dig. But the game has got to be worth my time and I can figure that out pretty quickly in ez modes.
Fair enough. I only play coop, not saying you do or not, I couldn't play this genre any other way.
Verno wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 20:17:
The Outlander class needs some tuning too, I feel bad for people who start out with that one.
I think action RPGs in general need to break out of their mold.
Cutter wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 20:04:
Yeah, I think it's just the art style of T2. I just can't stand cutsey cartoon styled graphics - and they looked pretty washed out at that. At least D3 has the right look to it - which seems to be about the only thing right with it.
Julio wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 19:51:
TL2 has been a big disappointment to me as well, I've played the demo for 5 minutes and find it boring. D3 was better than TL2, scary enough - at least I got a week of playing time in D3.
Julio wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 19:51:
TL2 has been a big disappointment to me as well, I've played the demo for 5 minutes and find it boring. D3 was better than TL2, scary enough - at least I got a week of playing time in D3.
Axis wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 17:05:
I'll keep saying the undeniable truth to anyone who actually played the crap outta d2...
Only worthy successor to D2 is... Path of Exile. End of story, nothing else can touch it.
Axis wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 18:38:HorrorScope wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 18:32:
FWIW and honestly, playing TL2 on anything lower then Veteren is basically watching a movie. Their two bottom difficulties are insultingly easy. You deserved to challenge yourself more.
I totally agree man. I do stuff on normal to see if it's worth me putting the time in on higher difficulties. I love a good challenge, always do hardcore characters on games I dig. But the game has got to be worth my time and I can figure that out pretty quickly in ez modes.
HorrorScope wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 18:32:
FWIW and honestly, playing TL2 on anything lower then Veteren is basically watching a movie. Their two bottom difficulties are insultingly easy. You deserved to challenge yourself more.
HorrorScope wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 18:21:Axis wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 18:00:
So my post is more for everyone else who is already done with TL2, BL2, or even GW2, etc like myself who wants to see what a real ARPG feels like in the 21st century.
Wow do you ever blow through games. If I was that hard to satisfy, I'd definitely be a lot lot lot more picky dropping dollars. I really like TL2 and BL2, I like BL2 a little better, probably because I like FP perspective over top-down and why not? It's a ton more immersive and puts you in the world. Once there it's the same ARPG formula.
HorrorScope wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 18:18:dj LiTh wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 16:03:
I'll say it as well. TL2 is pretty boring indeed. Not happy with the state of d3, but to say that TL2 is better is just being jaded and having no clue about better ARPG's that came before such as Titan Quest. On its worst day d3 beats TL2.
I like TL2 better then TQ and by a good stretch. TQ wasn't all that, even though I know many think it was. Face it they are all very similar and ARPG's are a shallow experience. There is a reason why there was a war of words back in the Diablo 1 days, it went from games like BG to D1 and many many many complained D1 wasn't a RPG and was the dumbing down of games then, consoles just took it even further.