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Verno wrote on Sep 13, 2012, 11:18:
It's all about skill and self-sufficiency. Holy trinity creates a ludicrous inter-dependency and quite frankly has been done to death, there was room for innovation here and they achieved it.
You are on the right track, but you don't take this thought far enough. The problem with the traditional Trinity is that it inevitably ends up relying on DPS over the other two. I'm not talking any one specific boss or instance, I'm talking on the whole. You end up with things like timers, boss rage mode, etc., that clearly illustrate this fact. Yet people still embrace it as if it were the best and only way to do things, when in reality it should have been abandoned the very second it was no longer a true "trinity."
It was much less noticeable in the MMO's of old, where you had either dedicated and professional players, raids of 40 people, or different mechanics entirely. What you have in its place is a stale and modern standard that ultimately is casual in its reliance. That's why DPS is the king of the Trinity now - people like to do damage more than they like to heal or tank. It's just more flashy, and easier to level. So this is very much a symptom of underlying issues in the entire paradigm.
The mold needs to be broken. It won't be done overnight, but I feel Guild Wars 2 is at least a step in the right direction. It manages not to deviate so far from the mold that it is anathema to newcomers, but it also requires players to rethink their roles. That's a good start, and frankly I think most people fall into the position of supporting what appeals to them immediately over truly wanting what's best for the genre. I don't want to proselytize from a pulpit, I just want to point out what should be obvious. |
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