Rhialto wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 18:16:
Latest news and more to come at this Forbes link.

[UPDATE 3: Martyn Williams, a correspondent for IDG News Service, reports via Twitter that he's standing outside OnLive headquarters. "In the last 20mins have seen three people walk out of # OnLive with leaving boxes. Still unclear what's happening inside pic.twitter.com/ZYFBxCyC"]

Bye bye, OnLive. Let's all hope services like yours never, ever, EVER come the fuck back.

loomy wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 17:41:

Axis wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 16:22:
Steam can revoke your access to and through steam - not your access to your purchased games (unless it's a Valve game and you cheat or something). You still can play any of the games as most have keys or use your credentials. Steam has no control over your games, only over their service. Many of the games once I buy them I don't even run steam.

mag is right and you are full of poo

Axis wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 16:22:
Steam can revoke your access to and through steam - not your access to your purchased games (unless it's a Valve game and you cheat or something). You still can play any of the games as most have keys or use your credentials. Steam has no control over your games, only over their service. Many of the games once I buy them I don't even run steam.

Flatline wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 17:04:

Beamer wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 16:14:
Interesting. Guess they ran out of capital.

They did a lot right, including all the partnerships they got (putting them on TVs was somewhat brilliant.)



Which means the failure was either:
1) Timing (too soon for the idea)
2) Idea (just not a good idea)
3) Operations (business not run by right people)


I don't see anyone else jumping into this right away, given how successful the bizdev was for these guys.

While the business might not be gone, it's late for the sky because it's targeting people who have massive pipelines but crappy computers and an aversion to consoles... who the fuck in the USA qualifies for that?

Launching in NA was a mistake, pure and simple. When it comes to bandwidth availability, we're the backwater yokels of the industrialized world. We don't improve service, we figure out new ways to bill for old service. So the 30mbit downstream or whatever was required to run the service without serious lag & compression problems limits your market to a small, already dedicated gaming group.

If the service is feasible anywhere, I'd have launched in South Korea. You know, where the government intends to have gigabit to the household as a standard service in a few years?

Launching where you don't have a large enough market with access to required infrastructure is insane.

Beamer wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 16:14:
Interesting. Guess they ran out of capital.

They did a lot right, including all the partnerships they got (putting them on TVs was somewhat brilliant.)



Which means the failure was either:
1) Timing (too soon for the idea)
2) Idea (just not a good idea)
3) Operations (business not run by right people)


I don't see anyone else jumping into this right away, given how successful the bizdev was for these guys.

Creston wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 16:25:
But... but... this was the future of gaming! EVERYONE was going to be playing games this way in like a year or two?



Bye bye, OnLive. Let's all hope services like yours never, ever, EVER come the fuck back.

They did a lot right, including all the partnerships they got (putting them on TVs was somewhat brilliant.)

I am very, VERY skeptical over these partnerships of theirs. Yeah, they announced a ton of shit, but did you ever actually see or hear about a TV that came with it included? I think a lot of these 'partnerships' were paper tigers.

Creston

They did a lot right, including all the partnerships they got (putting them on TVs was somewhat brilliant.)

mag wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 16:09:

Axis wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 16:03:

Wookiestick wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 15:51:
This will be an interesting digital experiment. I for one hope it doesn't happen, but think about it...

What would happen if Steam was to go out of business? Did you buy the game or rent it? Yeah they've said they would unlock the DRM on the games, but talk is cheap.

Every game on steam is owned unless its F2P -- It's a digital purchase, not a digital rental.

Read the Steam service agreement. Steam can revoke your ability to play or access any game whenever they want for any reason. Steam is an Indefinite Rental service.

Even when you buy a game on a physical disc, you only purchased a license to play the game. That's all you are allowed to do with it, and they can revoke it whenever they like. It's just hard to break into folks' houses to confiscate their discs. Hurray!

Axis wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 16:03:

Wookiestick wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 15:51:
This will be an interesting digital experiment. I for one hope it doesn't happen, but think about it...

What would happen if Steam was to go out of business? Did you buy the game or rent it? Yeah they've said they would unlock the DRM on the games, but talk is cheap.

Every game on steam is owned unless its F2P -- It's a digital purchase, not a digital rental.

Wookiestick wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 15:51:
This will be an interesting digital experiment. I for one hope it doesn't happen, but think about it...

What would happen if Steam was to go out of business? Did you buy the game or rent it? Yeah they've said they would unlock the DRM on the games, but talk is cheap.