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Source 2 Engine Hint

There are bits of code in Valve's Source Filmmaker suggesting plans are in place for a next version of Valve's Source engine. Here's an example: ""Return an str with the current engine version. If key doesn't doesn't [sic] exist, assume 'Source', otherwise invalid -- assume next-gen 'Source 2'." Thanks Valvetime.net via Eurogamer.

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15. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 12:07 eRe4s3r
 
To be honest, the only thing it WAS good for in 2004 was the physics engine, now that was kick-ass and worlds beyond Havok (then) and PhysX (didn't exist really). Add to that a great dynamic shadow system (despite baked map shadows) and a very very nice facial animation system and extremely nice looking water and glass and it was a good engine. Especially because it blew Doom 3 and then Unreal Engine 2 out of the water (graphically and tech-wise) in all aspects.

But nowadays? Doom 4 is gonna be a joke if it's based on Tech5 and megatexture. And Source 2 better be playing in the upper class, that is, frostbite 2.0, CryEngine, Unity 4, UE3 or 4 or Dunia engine. Can't see this happening within less than 2 years. Developing a full blown AAA engine costs actual money and effort. And if valve isn't developing HL3 side-by-side they are never gonna reach release in a state of not out-of-date'ness.

I am actually kinda shocked source 2 isn't already there. Film Maker would have been a HUGE and perfect test-bed for a bleeding edge engine. How they missed that is beyond me.
 
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14. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 12:07 Beamer
 
Yeah, but it was only a year removed from Max Payne 2. Max Payne 2 had physics, and I remember one physics puzzle - some pills were up high and you could get them down. Floaty and disgusting, and just one puzzle.

And, for its time, advanced.
 
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13. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 12:02 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 11:57:
Frijoles wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 11:55:
RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 11:41:
Never could understand why anyone gave a shit about that engine.

Facial animations. Still spectacular after so many years.

Low poly but fantastic texture handling (leading to fantastic textures), great physics, great animations, and amazing eyes.

Yeah, the low poly worlds are starting to look bad, but that engine lasted a very long time with little up-keep due to the textures and animations.

It was a fairly spectacular engine for anyone that wanted to run well on a very wide range of PCs. That's common now, but wasn't back in 2004.

Fair enough point on facial animations, I dunno I always kinda found the physics to feel really floaty and gimicky but maybe that's just me.
 
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12. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 11:57 Beamer
 
Frijoles wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 11:55:
RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 11:41:
Never could understand why anyone gave a shit about that engine.

Facial animations. Still spectacular after so many years.

Low poly but fantastic texture handling (leading to fantastic textures), great physics, great animations, and amazing eyes.

Yeah, the low poly worlds are starting to look bad, but that engine lasted a very long time with little up-keep due to the textures and animations.

It was a fairly spectacular engine for anyone that wanted to run well on a very wide range of PCs. That's common now, but wasn't back in 2004.
 
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11. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 11:55 Frijoles
 
RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 11:41:
Never could understand why anyone gave a shit about that engine.

Facial animations. Still spectacular after so many years.
 
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10. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 11:41 RollinThundr
 
Creston wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 11:24:
Will Source 2 finally get rid of the ridiculous "LOADING" segment every 20 seconds? Seriously, Valve. Just Cause 2 NEVER shows you a loading screen once the game is going, and it's approximately 90,000 times larger than Half Life 2. The Crysis engine never has to load during a level. The Dunia engine never had to load anything once it was going.

Will you please stop grounding your engine technology in 1992, and get somewhat more modern? GTA San Andreas had a better engine than you, and that was on the playstation 2...

Creston

That would require Valve not to take 10 years to finish something however. Source was imo in a way outdated the day it first arrived. Never could understand why anyone gave a shit about that engine.
 
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9. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 11:24 Creston
 
Will Source 2 finally get rid of the ridiculous "LOADING" segment every 20 seconds? Seriously, Valve. Just Cause 2 NEVER shows you a loading screen once the game is going, and it's approximately 90,000 times larger than Half Life 2. The Crysis engine never has to load during a level. The Dunia engine never had to load anything once it was going.

Will you please stop grounding your engine technology in 1992, and get somewhat more modern? GTA San Andreas had a better engine than you, and that was on the playstation 2...

Creston
 
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8. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 11:19 theyarecomingforyou
 
Frijoles wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 11:12:
Reddit keeps saying that Valve call any game post-L4D Source 2 and that this could be nothing.
A talking website? Interesting.
 
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7. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 11:12 Frijoles
 
Reddit keeps saying that Valve call any game post-L4D Source 2 and that this could be nothing.  
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6. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 11:07 nin
 
Techie714 wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 10:59:
jimnms wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 10:46:
Does this mean that the Black Mesa Source Team is going to start over?

LMAO!! I still think about that game every once in awhile.

I do, too. I think I'm about due for a HL:Source replay. At least until the xen, which is always where I end up stopping...

 
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5. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 10:59 Techie714
 
jimnms wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 10:46:
Does this mean that the Black Mesa Source Team is going to start over?

LMAO!! I still think about that game every once in awhile.
 
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4. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 10:50 Dades
 
jimnms wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 10:46:
Does this mean that the Black Mesa Source Team is going to start over?

The problem with this comment is the assumption that they ever started
 
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3. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 10:47 nin
 
jimnms wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 10:46:
Does this mean that the Black Mesa Source Team is going to start over?

Bravo! You win!

 
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2. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 10:46 jimnms
 
Does this mean that the Black Mesa Source Team is going to start over?  
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1. Re: Source 2 Engine Hint Aug 6, 2012, 10:29 eRe4s3r
 
Hoho, always figured they won't do Half-Life 3 with the outdated source engine, but do a proper new engine overhaul first. The source engine simply did not age well the cel-shading may still look ok, but you can't make a AAA game based on that, not if it's hl3  
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