Fletch wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 17:35:

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 15:09:

Again, I don't like Romney any better. But to call Obama anything other than a failure is stretching it. The man can't even get a budget passed, and the 17 or so budgets congress drafted are more than likely at the bottom of Harry Reid's wastebasket.

It's a two way street, Obama and his supporters as much as they preached they would work with the Republicans has done the opposite.

Are you daft? It was just explained to you by two different people. You are absolutely CLUELESS. You can't work with Repugs who have no intention of working with you on anything, and who's primary purpose is to filibuster everything (you can filibuster without a majority, so that's been explained to you now), and then claim Obama didn't do anything come election time. They've even said as much many times. Even when Obama gives in and gives them everything they want (and he often does), they change their minds and block it with filibuster anyway. You've swallowed that ridiculous, neocon cult narrative whole, and now you're here regurgitating bullet points with absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

You are a tool.

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 15:09:

Again, I don't like Romney any better. But to call Obama anything other than a failure is stretching it. The man can't even get a budget passed, and the 17 or so budgets congress drafted are more than likely at the bottom of Harry Reid's wastebasket.

It's a two way street, Obama and his supporters as much as they preached they would work with the Republicans has done the opposite.

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 08:36:

Beamer wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 06:45:

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 00:40:

Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 23:13:

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 22:54:

Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 19:44:
If there are more rich liberals than conservatives, doesn't that imply it's smarter to be a liberal?

Hint: wealth has nothing to do with how you feel economic policy should be structured. Just because you make an obscene amount of money doesn't mean you think the system is boned, and just because you think the system is completely asinine and creates incentives to cut jobs instead of create them doesn't mean you can't be wealthy.

Hint: all those 1%ers you guys like to cry about? They're democrats.

Show me one post where I bitch about a guy making $250k. C'mon.
Or stop lumping me in. Not everyone is the political stereotype you painfully are.

Beamer you've gone on more than once about the supposed finite pie and how those are the top are hoarding it. Come on now.

But I don't think it's 1%. I bitch about guys making two million, not two hundred thousand.

And what makes you think the pie isn't finite? Is the US making an infinite amount of money suddenly? Is the middle class actually seeing their salaries increase for the first time in 30 years?

Are people good at spending within their means? Are those in the middle class saving for retirement? I realize the words personal responsibility to a liberal are like a cross to a vampire, but that's what reality is, Big daddy government is not there to hold your hand and provide a life for you, toughen up cupcake.

I saw my salary increase by 6k in july. If one works hard enough they advance.

Hint: all those 1%ers you guys like to cry about? They're democrats.

Beamer wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 06:45:

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 00:40:

Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 23:13:

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 22:54:

Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 19:44:
If there are more rich liberals than conservatives, doesn't that imply it's smarter to be a liberal?

Hint: wealth has nothing to do with how you feel economic policy should be structured. Just because you make an obscene amount of money doesn't mean you think the system is boned, and just because you think the system is completely asinine and creates incentives to cut jobs instead of create them doesn't mean you can't be wealthy.

Hint: all those 1%ers you guys like to cry about? They're democrats.

Show me one post where I bitch about a guy making $250k. C'mon.
Or stop lumping me in. Not everyone is the political stereotype you painfully are.

Beamer you've gone on more than once about the supposed finite pie and how those are the top are hoarding it. Come on now.

But I don't think it's 1%. I bitch about guys making two million, not two hundred thousand.

And what makes you think the pie isn't finite? Is the US making an infinite amount of money suddenly? Is the middle class actually seeing their salaries increase for the first time in 30 years?

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 00:40:

Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 23:13:

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 22:54:

Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 19:44:
If there are more rich liberals than conservatives, doesn't that imply it's smarter to be a liberal?

Hint: wealth has nothing to do with how you feel economic policy should be structured. Just because you make an obscene amount of money doesn't mean you think the system is boned, and just because you think the system is completely asinine and creates incentives to cut jobs instead of create them doesn't mean you can't be wealthy.

Hint: all those 1%ers you guys like to cry about? They're democrats.

Show me one post where I bitch about a guy making $250k. C'mon.
Or stop lumping me in. Not everyone is the political stereotype you painfully are.

Beamer you've gone on more than once about the supposed finite pie and how those are the top are hoarding it. Come on now.

Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 23:13:

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 22:54:

Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 19:44:
If there are more rich liberals than conservatives, doesn't that imply it's smarter to be a liberal?

Hint: wealth has nothing to do with how you feel economic policy should be structured. Just because you make an obscene amount of money doesn't mean you think the system is boned, and just because you think the system is completely asinine and creates incentives to cut jobs instead of create them doesn't mean you can't be wealthy.

Hint: all those 1%ers you guys like to cry about? They're democrats.

Show me one post where I bitch about a guy making $250k. C'mon.
Or stop lumping me in. Not everyone is the political stereotype you painfully are.

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 22:54:

Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 19:44:
If there are more rich liberals than conservatives, doesn't that imply it's smarter to be a liberal?

Hint: wealth has nothing to do with how you feel economic policy should be structured. Just because you make an obscene amount of money doesn't mean you think the system is boned, and just because you think the system is completely asinine and creates incentives to cut jobs instead of create them doesn't mean you can't be wealthy.

Hint: all those 1%ers you guys like to cry about? They're democrats.

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 22:54:

Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 19:44:
If there are more rich liberals than conservatives, doesn't that imply it's smarter to be a liberal?

Hint: wealth has nothing to do with how you feel economic policy should be structured. Just because you make an obscene amount of money doesn't mean you think the system is boned, and just because you think the system is completely asinine and creates incentives to cut jobs instead of create them doesn't mean you can't be wealthy.

Hint: all those 1%ers you guys like to cry about? They're democrats.

PHJF wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 21:18:

Oh, and btw, Obama is a narcissist. He has no interest in accomplishing anything but supplying his narcissistic needs. He only really cares about himself.

So he's a perfect capitalist? Rand would be so proud of us.

Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 19:44:
If there are more rich liberals than conservatives, doesn't that imply it's smarter to be a liberal?

Hint: wealth has nothing to do with how you feel economic policy should be structured. Just because you make an obscene amount of money doesn't mean you think the system is boned, and just because you think the system is completely asinine and creates incentives to cut jobs instead of create them doesn't mean you can't be wealthy.

Oh, and btw, Obama is a narcissist. He has no interest in accomplishing anything but supplying his narcissistic needs. He only really cares about himself.

jdreyer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 17:19:

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 16:33:

I stopped paying attention when you called Obama a conservative. That Kool Aid must be extra strength.

Ah, yes. Obama the "liberal" who:

- Devised, shepherded, and signed a conservative health care law first proposed by the Heritage Foundation and implemented by a Republican governor in Mass.
- Ordered the killing, not capture, of OBL
- Ordered the killing of US citizens without due process
- Expanded the drone war, expanding into new countries and vastly increasing their usage
- Expanded the war in Afghanistan
- Renewed the Patriot Act, a piece of legislation reviled by liberals
- Continued and expanded warrantless wiretapping started under Bush
- Initiated an unprecedented campaign against leakers (liberals are for transparency, not against)
- Expanded the war on drugs
- Put Social Security cuts on the table for negotiation as part of deficit reduction
- Extended the Bush tax cuts
- Expanded oil drilling
- Supports nuclear, clean coal, and natural gas fracking, all harmful to the environment

Oh, but he came out in favor of gay marriage, so he's a liberal! (AFTER public acceptance was over 50%)

Bruce Bartlett, former Reagan and Bush I official:

Conservatives will, of course, scoff at the idea of Obama being any sort of conservative, just as liberals scoffed at Nixon being any kind of liberal. But with the benefit of historical hindsight, it’s now obvious that Nixon was indeed a moderate liberal in practice. And with the passage of time, it’s increasingly obvious that Clinton was essentially an Eisenhower Republican. It may take 20 years before Obama’s basic conservatism is widely accepted as well, but it’s a fact.

- Ordered the killing of US citizens without due process