jdreyer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 17:19:

RollinThundr wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 16:33:

I stopped paying attention when you called Obama a conservative. That Kool Aid must be extra strength.

Ah, yes. Obama the "liberal" who:

- Devised, shepherded, and signed a conservative health care law first proposed by the Heritage Foundation and implemented by a Republican governor in Mass.
- Ordered the killing, not capture, of OBL
- Ordered the killing of US citizens without due process
- Expanded the drone war, expanding into new countries and vastly increasing their usage
- Expanded the war in Afghanistan
- Renewed the Patriot Act, a piece of legislation reviled by liberals
- Continued and expanded warrantless wiretapping started under Bush
- Initiated an unprecedented campaign against leakers (liberals are for transparency, not against)
- Expanded the war on drugs
- Put Social Security cuts on the table for negotiation as part of deficit reduction
- Extended the Bush tax cuts
- Expanded oil drilling
- Supports nuclear, clean coal, and natural gas fracking, all harmful to the environment

Oh, but he came out in favor of gay marriage, so he's a liberal! (AFTER public acceptance was over 50%)

Bruce Bartlett, former Reagan and Bush I official:

Conservatives will, of course, scoff at the idea of Obama being any sort of conservative, just as liberals scoffed at Nixon being any kind of liberal. But with the benefit of historical hindsight, it’s now obvious that Nixon was indeed a moderate liberal in practice. And with the passage of time, it’s increasingly obvious that Clinton was essentially an Eisenhower Republican. It may take 20 years before Obama’s basic conservatism is widely accepted as well, but it’s a fact.