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Overon wrote on Jul 25, 2012, 21:12: I'm interested to know what evidence and logic Gabe can offer for his statements about Windows 8. I don't know much but some statements written about windows 8 here got me scared big time, it almost fees like win8 ms is trying to turn pc gaming into xbox live(win8 metro)
Statements from discussion here that got me really sad about windows 8:
- Under current Windows 8 Metro, apps and games have to be digitally signed and certified by Microsoft and installed by MS's Marketplace service. So I wouldn't say it's impossible, but Valve and Microsoft must work out a deal, either to allow Steam storefront to distribute Marketplace games or get Steam games to be signed and approved by Microsoft (and take additional cut of the revenue). I don't see either happening because Microsoft is likely to promote their own distribution service over Steam.
- That sounds naive. Metro apps have to be signed and certified by Microsoft to be allowed onto the store, its not as simple as just making one and putting it out there. I doubt Microsoft would allow in app purchases to be free, their whole business model is literally copying the iOS store so they would want a cut. The longest they would allow any freemium model for is the period it takes them to get a comparable number of apps to iOS and Android
- Win8 only boots into metro, no option to go to desktop by default, and windows marketplace is the only digital distribution service allowed. Period. If you want steam you must switch to desktop which is now brushed aside as legacy by Microsoft with no guaranteed future support
this is quite sad if true, oh god and that also makes me wonder that would also mean every time developer wants to patch or test patch it has to go through that tiresome ms certification oh GOD no. Further I guess if someone wanted to patch metro app/game MS would take fees for every time they push an update just like Xbox live which would be horrible for smaller developers. Guess only hope is that windows 8 desktop/legacy will still be supported but the way things are looking as far as pc gaming goes there is no way in hell i am upgrading to windows 8 from 7. Of course I have faith that many PC gamers if they choose to use 8 they stick to using desktop and that MS doesnt concentrate on metro only.
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