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Tom wrote on Jul 25, 2012, 18:44:
PropheT wrote on Jul 25, 2012, 18:36:
...You totally misunderstood what he said, or didn't think about it at all.
If people have a reason to go use Linux, like games, people (and companies) will be driven to develop for Linux and those problems will disappear with the attention needed to standardize the platform and stabilize the environment as an alternative to Windows.
I don't even know how you would interpret what he said as just being "if you could play games on it Linux would be the BESTEST"...
Oh, so without games, people and companies have no reason to develop for Linux? If only games were there, all those other problems would get fixed? Still sounds like I understood correctly. I just think it's a ridiculous assertion.
Alright, so you didn't miss the point, it just went over your head.
1. Windows 7 is still in the adoption phase by businesses. It hasn't even hit full speed in business use yet, and Windows 8 is about to roll around.
2. Windows 7 is already requiring hardware upgrades to make it a feasible platform. Combined with development costs for in-house software and a number of other things, it's an extremely expensive upgrade. Someone earlier pointed out the graphics capabilities that Win8 is using with 3D acceleration for everything; even among Win7 capable business machines that's still not standard hardware. We'll forget about monitors for now.
3. From a general user standpoint, Win8 is unnecessary right now. PC sales have been battered as it is, and nobody has really forgotten the problems with getting people to even give up XP in the hardware market. It didn't go well for OEM's, and the situation is already coming up again for them.
4. An alternative becomes necessary when the upgrade and implementation costs make it necessary. Microsoft is on top and is uncontested for the most part because Windows is awesome (people argue, but it is). What they're doing now is driving the birth of competition, and the cheapest way for competition to get started is to build off of a Linux base. There's already been a serious upswing in Mac use for the same reason, I don't think it's hard to envision a stable and competitive Linux-based platform competing for Windows market share as a result of Windows 8... like Chrome OS, for example, that isn't ready now but could be in the next year or two.
All of these things are contingent on the fact that gaming as it is on PC's now requires a healthy PC market, something Windows 8 -could- do ok with, but could also cause long-term damage to.
5. For gaming specifically, Gabe isn't the first person to even say this. Brad Wardell did back in March, too. I'll let him list the reasons instead of typing them here:
http://kotaku.com/5897763/three-killer-problems-that-threaten-windows-8
There's other stuff but I'm getting bored and don't feel like Googling any of it. That should be enough to get the point anyway. |
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Jul 25, 16:47 |
Gabe Newell, confirming what I already knew |
DukeFNukem |
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Jul 25, 16:48 |
Re: Gabe Newell, confirming what I already knew |
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Jul 26, 04:28 |
Re: Gabe Newell, confirming what I already knew |
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Jul 25, 17:38 |
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Jul 25, 20:03 |
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Jul 25, 20:22 |
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noman |
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Jul 25, 20:29 |
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Prez |
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HorrorScope |
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Jay |
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Jul 25, 17:10 |
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Jul 25, 17:12 |
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DukeFNukem |
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Jul 25, 17:52 |
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Jul 25, 18:03 |
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noman |
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Jul 25, 17:54 |
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Prez |
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Dades |
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Prez |
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Jul 25, 18:32 |
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Jul 25, 18:47 |
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Prez |
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Jul 25, 17:57 |
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Tom |
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Jul 25, 18:04 |
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Devinoch |
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Jul 25, 18:36 |
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PropheT |
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Jul 25, 18:44 |
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PropheT |
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Jul 25, 18:15 |
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HorrorScope |
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Jul 25, 18:30 |
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Agent.X7 |
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Jul 25, 18:40 |
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HorrorScope |
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Jul 25, 19:32 |
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Agent.X7 |
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Jul 25, 19:39 |
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Jul 25, 19:55 |
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HorrorScope |
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Jul 25, 19:56 |
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xXBatmanXx |
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Jul 25, 19:58 |
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Beamer |
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Jul 25, 20:04 |
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Muscular Beaver |
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Jul 25, 20:37 |
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RollinThundr |
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Lorcin |
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eunichron |
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Jul 25, 22:49 |
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Endo |
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Spektr |
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dj LiTh |
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Jul 25, 19:48 |
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dj LiTh |
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Muscular Beaver |
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Rea1One |
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Jivaro |
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Dades |
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Jul 25, 19:48 |
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SimplyMonk |
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eunichron |
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Icewind |
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Jul 25, 20:00 |
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HorrorScope |
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Jul 25, 20:48 |
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wtf_man |
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Jul 25, 21:41 |
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Elricsi |
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Sepharo |
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Creston |
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RollinThundr |
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NKD |
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NegaDeath |
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gilly775 |
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DangerDog |
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Beamer |
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Beamer |
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Sepharo |
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wtf_man |
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Endo |
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Verno |
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Jul 26, 10:49 |
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Dev |
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Mr. Tact |
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Aug 1, 04:27 |
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Aug 1, 08:55 |
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Mr. Tact |
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rkone |
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