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Op Ed

GameFront - Why I'm Not Okay with the Penny Arcade Kickstarter.
But Penny Arcade doesn't need money from Kickstarter, or to crowdsource new projects. It simply would prefer to remove ads from its site for one year, at the cost of a huge amount of money. But itís choosing to gather that money not through usual business channels, but through Kickstarter ó and in a way, itís taking advantage of the Kickstarter culture and drawing away users who would potentially give funds to more needy projects.

52. Re: Op Ed Jul 26, 2012, 13:38 Creston
Verno wrote on Jul 25, 2012, 13:00:
Ugh, I wish people would stop bitching at what goes on Kickstarter and what doesn't. The crowd in general decides what gets funded and what doesn't

I don't think that's fair at all. For example we all frequently complain about other people doing things in the videogame market despite our ability to just ignore them and exercise our personal preferences and purchase rights. I know you're a part of that as much as the rest of us too

This isn't a project, it's funding a well established, ongoing business for an indefinite period of time with no actual guidelines or standards. So yeah obviously I'm going to exercise my rights not to fund it but I'm also going to voice my displeasure that they're allowing it on there despite all of those things.

But that's kind of comparing apples to oranges. The whole idea behind Kickstarter is that a majority process decides whether something gets money or not. There's little to no comparison with the general game industry where a publisher decides that project A gets money, and it gets wasted. We've never had a say in that whatsoever, beyond the indirect manipulation of "If we buy 10 million copies of Game A, it's bound to get a sequel."

Do I think PA's could have just as easily done this another way? Yeah, I do. But I'm not going to go wag a moralizing finger at them and say that they're not allowed to try to do it through Kickstarter. I don't agree with it, so I don't give them any money. I'm not going to pre-emptively try to prohibit things like this from going ON Kickstarter.

We know there are a lot of great projects that fall outside of our scope, but Kickstarter is not a place for soliciting donations to causes, charity projects, or general business expenses. Learn more about our project guidelines.

That's very interesting, actually. I had no idea that was in their ToS. I'm amazed they allowed PA on there, but I guess Kickstarter figures it's 10 million viewers worth of advertisement, so they're turning a blind eye.

Another thing which I'm less happy about than the PA thing is things like the Defense Grid 2 kickstarter. They put the KS at 250K, but the real thing I want, an actual DG2, is at one million. So if I donate, and they get 350K, and they take my money, but I don't get what I want, which is the sequel. It's kind of violating the entire idea behind it. But again, hey, if KS allows it, then they can go ahead and do it. I'm just not going to fund it until it reaches 999K (which seems highly unlikely, as they're just over 150K with 19 days left.)


This comment was edited on Jul 26, 2012, 13:44.
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