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21. Re: etc., etc. Jul 20, 2012, 10:07 InBlack
 
Prez wrote on Jul 20, 2012, 09:30:
prez you are really giving those people too much credit, and because of that i would tend to assume you know someone like this personally at a friend/family level and are trying to give them benefit of the doubt

Well, you basically hit the nail on the head. My entire family, immediate, cousins, distant relatives, in-laws... everyone are Christians. My soul mate, my wife of 20 years is one. I know her better than anyone else, and I know for a fact she is a good and decent person despite her differing ideology.

But yeah, it gives me a different perspective and a desire to at least try to be respectful of their beliefs even when I don't agree, which frankly is most of the time.

My girlfriend of about three years is also a devout Christian and a practicing Catholic. Although a very sensible person, when it comes to religion and God its like she becomes another person. All sense is thrown in the wind. I respect her and her beliefs but sometimes it pains me to see someone I love behave irrationally. She too respects my atheist views, although I believe her family is having a hard time coping with it.
There is another burgeoning problem. Because of her upbringing, family 'values' and beliefs, she has quite a differnt worldview from mine. In my country nationalism and religion are very closely linked and on occasion this has come up in conversations with friends and some of her views seemed to be very bigoted, prejudiced and well to but it bluntly, very right winged. We talked about it of course and she assures me that I misheard or that I took things out of context and that though she has a conservative upbringing she is very liberal, has gay friends etc. etc. She has mostly reassured me, but I still have lingering doubts.

I dont think I could forgive her if it turns out that she was lying to me, that would be infinitely worse than her outlook and beliefs ever could be.

I guess my point is that religious people can be both rational and irrational which is why Im anxious and doubtful.

In any case KUDOS to you Prez.
 
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