BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

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EA's BF3 Community Manager took to Reddit to clarify details about the just-confirmed Battlefield 4 beta (thanks VG247). Word is beta testing should commence in Fall 2013 and that there will be ways to get into the beta besides preordering Medal of War Warfighter, though they are not revealing what they are at this time. Here's word:

Hey Guys,
Seeing a lot of questions about the BF4 beta announce and thought that'd I make a thread where you can find official, definitive information and help to address some concerns that I'm seeing.

The beta will be in Fall of 2013. We don't have a BF4 release date yet but, of course, it will be after the beta.

We will continue to support BF3. DICE and EA are dedicated to continuing our support for Battlefield 3. Just as we've continued to support and maintain Bad Company 2, we intend to continue providing the best Battlefield 3 experience we can well into the future and past the release of End Game and Battlefield 4.

There are several teams at DICE. Starting work on Battlefield 4 does not mean that we will be abandoning Battlefield 3 or working any less hard to bring you the best expansions we can.

Your feedback absolutely matters. We will continue to use it to improve BF3 and to make Battlefield 4 even better from day one.

Official details regarding BF4 will always be on Battlefield.com/battlefield-4. We expect there to be a lot of rumours and speculation - don't fall for it! ;)

Let me know if you guys have other concerns. Obviously, at this point there are some things that we don't know or that we're keeping under wraps.

Today's a busy day so it may take me some time to get back to you - thanks for your patience!

Ian

EDIT: Additional points of clarification

There will be other ways to get into the beta aside from MoH Warfighter. At this time, however, it is the only way to guarantee entry.
We've been seeing a lot of concerns about the pacing of release (i.e. "only" two years after BF3). I think it's worth noting that DICE has released a Battlefield game every two years or sooner AND Mirror's Edge at least every two years. I truly believe that we're in one of the best positions to be creating our next title - Frostbite 2 has matured, we've been gathering fan feedback like crazy, Battlefield 3 continues to expand with features which we can learn from, and we've got more data about how people play than ever.

EDIT: Additional clarification

Things that we recognize that there is a serious desire for, including but not exclusive to:

A better VOIP solution

Battle Recorder

Spectator Mode

More robust eSports support

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 19, 2012, 14:50

ASeven

Verno wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 12:18: This is about BF stuff, not other games soooo Do research, it's true man. They gave the client a ridiculous level of access and control, the hacks can do pretty insane things and obtain unusual levels of subtlety that would normally be caught due to the lack of things like Battle Recorder and etc. Trying to argue with a BF3 fanboy is as useful as arguing with a console fanboy.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 19, 2012, 12:18

Verno

This is about BF stuff, not other games soooo

Do research, it's true man. They gave the client a ridiculous level of access and control, the hacks can do pretty insane things and obtain unusual levels of subtlety that would normally be caught due to the lack of things like Battle Recorder and etc.




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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 19, 2012, 10:20

ItBurn

ASeven wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 10:02: ItBurn wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 09:16: Well geez, if the hacks are so subtle, I don't see the point of them. They sure as hell don't break my game. I'm almost always at the top of the leaderboard and it's never frustrating... Also, normally, in other shooters, 95% of hacking claims are false. People just suck and don't understand that good players can do crazy things. If you've ever been really good at a FPS before, you'd be banned from everywhere. So, you see why I doubt you guys. On non-PB BF3 servers tho, now THAT was hacking. My whole team constantly insta-dying at the spawn. Are you still trying to push the idiotic "there's no cheaters, only good players" rhetoric at us? Are you that stupid to think people here actually don't use their brains to differentiate the reality from what random fanboys spout about their games? Holy fuck the PC community for BF games has gone way, way down in quality, pretty much like BF itself I guess. What I'm saying is that your brain probably doesn't have the skills to detect real cheaters. That said, I haven't actually done research into BF3 hacking, so perhaps it's true that everyone has a non-obvious hack installed. Stop taking this personally. I'm just saying that in other games, 95% of the time, people are wrong.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 19, 2012, 10:02

ASeven

ItBurn wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 09:16: Well geez, if the hacks are so subtle, I don't see the point of them. They sure as hell don't break my game. I'm almost always at the top of the leaderboard and it's never frustrating... Also, normally, in other shooters, 95% of hacking claims are false. People just suck and don't understand that good players can do crazy things. If you've ever been really good at a FPS before, you'd be banned from everywhere. So, you see why I doubt you guys. On non-PB BF3 servers tho, now THAT was hacking. My whole team constantly insta-dying at the spawn. Are you still trying to push the idiotic "there's no cheaters, only good players" rhetoric at us? Are you that stupid to think people here actually don't use their brains to differentiate the reality from what random fanboys spout about their games? Holy fuck the PC community for BF games has gone way, way down in quality, pretty much like BF itself I guess.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 19, 2012, 09:30

SXO

My prediction is BF4 will be a futuristic shooter as a spiritual successor to 2142. Despite all the fans wanting one before, EA had told DICE there wasn't enough interest to warrant its development. But now that Black Ops 2 is coming out, along with a glut of other futuristic shooters on the way, EA will do as EA does, and follow the trend rather than being the trendsetter.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 19, 2012, 09:16

ItBurn

ASeven wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 08:01: RailWizard wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 07:23: ASeven wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 22:33: ItBurn wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 20:54: Jackplug wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 19:11: with what Julio said, I wont bat an eye at BF4 after EA did nothing what so ever to stop the rampant cheating. Punkbuster is a waste of space as I wouldnt mind it caused more problems than BF3 did. U Until they make a stand against cheaters, there is no point in bothering. Rampant cheating? You're one of those guys who gets mad when he gets killed and doesn't know why? Are you an idiot? Wait, you already answered positive with the reply above. As a friend once said, only retards can't seem to see that BF3 is the game with the most rampant cheating ever or at least very close to ever. I've seen plenty in BF3, tho I feel like when I was playing CoD:MW2 that I saw a FUCK of a lot more, and it wasn't just aimbots and wallhacks, but way more rude with altered EXP per kill, throwing your progression out the window. Problem is, and people here who play it can attest it, that most of the hacks for BF3 are god damn subtle, they aren't the kind of hacks that make a player go 140-0 but rather make the cheater go 40-20. Hell, from what I've heard, the level of sophistication and subtlety of the cheats for BF3 is above anything ever made before. Of course the total lack of battlerecorer, first person spectate or even a decent killcam worsens the cheating problem since catching them becomes even more hard. From what I keep reading it appears BF3 is a cheater's playground where they can cheat knowing that nothing will ever happen to them. It's that bad. Well geez, if the hacks are so subtle, I don't see the point of them. They sure as hell don't break my game. I'm almost always at the top of the leaderboard and it's never frustrating... Also, normally, in other shooters, 95% of hacking claims are false. People just suck and don't understand that good players can do crazy things. If you've ever been really good at a FPS before, you'd be banned from everywhere. So, you see why I doubt you guys. On non-PB BF3 servers tho, now THAT was hacking. My whole team constantly insta-dying at the spawn.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 19, 2012, 08:01

ASeven

RailWizard wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 07:23: ASeven wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 22:33: ItBurn wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 20:54: Jackplug wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 19:11: with what Julio said, I wont bat an eye at BF4 after EA did nothing what so ever to stop the rampant cheating. Punkbuster is a waste of space as I wouldnt mind it caused more problems than BF3 did. U Until they make a stand against cheaters, there is no point in bothering. Rampant cheating? You're one of those guys who gets mad when he gets killed and doesn't know why? Are you an idiot? Wait, you already answered positive with the reply above. As a friend once said, only retards can't seem to see that BF3 is the game with the most rampant cheating ever or at least very close to ever. I've seen plenty in BF3, tho I feel like when I was playing CoD:MW2 that I saw a FUCK of a lot more, and it wasn't just aimbots and wallhacks, but way more rude with altered EXP per kill, throwing your progression out the window. Problem is, and people here who play it can attest it, that most of the hacks for BF3 are god damn subtle, they aren't the kind of hacks that make a player go 140-0 but rather make the cheater go 40-20. Hell, from what I've heard, the level of sophistication and subtlety of the cheats for BF3 is above anything ever made before. Of course the total lack of battlerecorer, first person spectate or even a decent killcam worsens the cheating problem since catching them becomes even more hard. From what I keep reading it appears BF3 is a cheater's playground where they can cheat knowing that nothing will ever happen to them. It's that bad.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 19, 2012, 07:23

RailWizard

ASeven wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 22:33: ItBurn wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 20:54: Jackplug wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 19:11: with what Julio said, I wont bat an eye at BF4 after EA did nothing what so ever to stop the rampant cheating. Punkbuster is a waste of space as I wouldnt mind it caused more problems than BF3 did. U Until they make a stand against cheaters, there is no point in bothering. Rampant cheating? You're one of those guys who gets mad when he gets killed and doesn't know why? Are you an idiot? Wait, you already answered positive with the reply above. As a friend once said, only retards can't seem to see that BF3 is the game with the most rampant cheating ever or at least very close to ever. I've seen plenty in BF3, tho I feel like when I was playing CoD:MW2 that I saw a FUCK of a lot more, and it wasn't just aimbots and wallhacks, but way more rude with altered EXP per kill, throwing your progression out the window.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 19, 2012, 01:14

Sepharo

Dev wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 23:57:
Heck, the original counterstrike did VOIP too, and thats what, 10+ years old now?

Lucky guess

Voice chat in CS is 10.9 years old. CS is 13 years old.




[I'm not trolling I'm just] tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. -TrollinThundr

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 18, 2012, 23:57

Dev

tf2 does VOIP quite well and thats a fairly old game. Heck, the original counterstrike did VOIP too, and thats what, 10+ years old now? Dice doesn't have much excuse to not do good VOIP.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 18, 2012, 22:36

ASeven

Dades wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 21:07: DangerDog wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 20:18: I know everyone likes to rail about VOIP being "broken" but the alternative would be much worse - imagine a game where it worked but you couldn't shut it off and someone went around playing horrid music in the background griefing other players. I'm not sure I would want it fixed in Battlefield. It is not that difficult for them to have an option to toggle it off or mute a player. Given that it's Dice they would probably fuck it up but people always argue against squad voip by saying they dont want to hear little kids on mic, as if it has to be one or the other. I find it weird people are actually defending a devolution of PC gaming by taking away features and actually reasoning that that is good. No, no it is not good and it also isn't a black and white scenario. As Dades said, coding a toggle is easy and in fact most PC multiplayer games with VOIP do have it. The result of not having VOIP is that apparently most BF3 matches end up in base raping with one team getting totally crushed. That's the price of not having VOIP, if people like unbalanced games like that, well, good luck with your next game, I prefer balanced games myself with the tools that allow such balance.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 18, 2012, 22:33

ASeven

ItBurn wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 20:54: Jackplug wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 19:11: with what Julio said, I wont bat an eye at BF4 after EA did nothing what so ever to stop the rampant cheating. Punkbuster is a waste of space as I wouldnt mind it caused more problems than BF3 did. U Until they make a stand against cheaters, there is no point in bothering. Rampant cheating? You're one of those guys who gets mad when he gets killed and doesn't know why? Are you an idiot? Wait, you already answered positive with the reply above. As a friend once said, only retards can't seem to see that BF3 is the game with the most rampant cheating ever or at least very close to ever.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 18, 2012, 21:07

Dades

DangerDog wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 20:18: I know everyone likes to rail about VOIP being "broken" but the alternative would be much worse - imagine a game where it worked but you couldn't shut it off and someone went around playing horrid music in the background griefing other players. I'm not sure I would want it fixed in Battlefield. It is not that difficult for them to have an option to toggle it off or mute a player. Given that it's Dice they would probably fuck it up but people always argue against squad voip by saying they dont want to hear little kids on mic, as if it has to be one or the other. Rampant cheating? You're one of those guys who gets mad when he gets killed and doesn't know why? Sounds like you're in denial, there is a lot of hacking on BF3 public servers. Google some hacks or look at some players Battlelog reports sometime, it will be an eye opener.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 18, 2012, 20:54

ItBurn

Jackplug wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 19:11: with what Julio said, I wont bat an eye at BF4 after EA did nothing what so ever to stop the rampant cheating. Punkbuster is a waste of space as I wouldnt mind it caused more problems than BF3 did. U Until they make a stand against cheaters, there is no point in bothering. Rampant cheating? You're one of those guys who gets mad when he gets killed and doesn't know why?

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 18, 2012, 20:18

DangerDog

Dev wrote on Jul 18, 2012, 17:01: Now I'm glad I didn't get BF3. Yeah, "continued to support" BF BC2, like they've fixed the VOIP in it? I know everyone likes to rail about VOIP being "broken" but the alternative would be much worse - imagine a game where it worked but you couldn't shut it off and someone went around playing horrid music in the background griefing other players. I'm not sure I would want it fixed in Battlefield.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 18, 2012, 19:11

Jackplug

with what Julio said, I wont bat an eye at BF4 after EA did nothing what so ever to stop the rampant cheating. Punkbuster is a waste of space as I wouldnt mind it caused more problems than BF3 did. U Until they make a stand against cheaters, there is no point in bothering.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 18, 2012, 18:53

Julio

What killed BF3 for me was the rampant and obvious cheating. I'd rather play against bots than cheaters online. EA did nothing to fix the issue of cheaters. Don't believe the shill from EA that posted earlier in the thread. Punkbuster is useless, I'll take a pass on BF4

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 18, 2012, 17:01

Dev

Now I'm glad I didn't get BF3. Yeah, "continued to support" BF BC2, like they've fixed the VOIP in it?

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 18, 2012, 15:34

DangerDog

This is going to be a case of "we listened to the community for Battlefied 3 and are implementing many suggestions in Battlefield 4" If it's not BF2143 or a complete change of era and venue it will be criticized as being a $60 or $70 patch for Battlefield 3.

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Re: BF4 Beta in Fall 2013: MoH Not Required

Jul 18, 2012, 15:25

entr0py

It's a shame that they seem to have abandoned making proper expansion packs in favor of DLC packs that are a fraction of the scope. The previous Battlefield games had memorable expansion packs that really expanded the life of the game and were worth $30.

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