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nin wrote on Jul 3, 2012, 18:48:
Devinoch wrote on Jul 3, 2012, 18:29: Games are expensive to make. You know why you don't get patches? Because people didn't buy the game. If people don't buy the game, there's no money incoming to improve the game. While I totally agree that budget have become astronomical, not supporting a game post release as you describe is biting the hand that fed you. And believe me, we remember that for years later, including when you switch studios/projects.
To screw the people that spent the most to play your game is suicide. And I don't shed a tear for studios that do that. It's not a question of not wanting to support the game post release - it's a question of not being paid to do so. I know everyone thinks developing games is just one nonstop party, but I hate to be the crusher of dreams here, it's a job. It can often be a fun job, but it's still a job. And if people aren't paying you to do your job, you shouldn't be doing your job.
Developing a patch, releasing a patch, these are things that take time and money, and if the studio's closed, or your team has been rolled onto another product, there really is very little you can do about it. Patch the game in your spare time? Would you do your job for free, in addition to doing your job for pay? That's like asking a guy at McDonalds to come in and put in another 4 hours off-the-clock after he's just pulled an eight hour shift, so as to not "screw the people."
I'm not arguing that game development isn't busted. Believe me, I know better (far better) than most people, but when you blame a whole studio for not supporting a game that sold a handful of copies, when they're trying to make another game that hopefully will sell more than a few copies, so they can continue to put a roof over their head, well, you're missing the forrest for the trees.
The business of making games desperately needs to change. But so do the consumer expectations of "well, I bought this game, so I can do whatever I want to with it." Used game sales seriously hurt game studios. I've made this argument before, and I'm sure I will again. But expect AAA games to play it safer and safer, expect to see more and more sequels with less and less innovation, and expect the studios making them attempt to nickel-and-dime you for every little penny they can get from you. Day one DLC, online passes... they're only getting started. The micro transaction assault is coming, because guess what? MW3 had hundreds of people working on it. All AAA games do. And that many engineers, artists, designers, audio guys, marketing guys, localization guys, qa guys... it adds up.
I suspect most people who complain about games have no idea how much it costs to made a video game these days. I can assure you, just adding up salaries alone... it's not cheap. |
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