RollinThundr wrote on Jun 23, 2012, 23:05:
Do a google search for welfare fraud, look at the 1000's of cases. To pretend it happens to little that it's insignificant is silly. I've said more than a couple times in this thread I have no problem with helping people via social programs that really need it and who do their best to contribute back into the system.
Looking at cases doesn't tell me where you're getting your statistics from. You seem to think it's a large problem. Why do you believe that? Where do you get the numbers? How many cases are there? What percentage are they of the whole?
Then, there's also the question about what to do about it. Are there sensible fixes that can be put into place to improve the system without turning it into a bureaucratic nightmare that is so top-heavy with red tape and layers of review that it becomes a textbook example of an inefficient government program? Can we fix it in ways that don't cost more than they're worth, and don't screw over the people that actually need the help? All your ranting about liberals so far has addressed none of this.
RollinThundr wrote on Jun 23, 2012, 23:05:
I just can't stand the entitlement/PC mentality we have now in the US however. Granted since liberals pretty much run most of the public school systems at this point, I can't say I should be too surprised.
Right, because liberals love welfare fraud. They don't care how many people are mooching off the system, they just want everyone to have whatever they want for free. You really need to get off this kick of generalizing about the beliefs of this vaguely defined group you call "liberals". I notice you weren't too keen on the generalizations about conservatives earlier either. Maybe you should think about it a bit before you slap labels on people. I wonder if you'd consider me a liberal? I mean, we obviously do disagree on some things...
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." -- Bertrand Russell (I think...)