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Curt Schilling on 38 Studios' Demise

Former baseball star Curt Schilling was interviewed this morning on the Dennis & Callahan sports radio show on WEEI in Boston in the first such appearance since the demise of 38 Studios, the developer he founded. Boston.com quotes some of the conversation where Schilling spoke of investing all of his personal assets into the company while never a penny back out. He also says his former employees "have every right to be upset" as they were "blindsided" by the studio's closure after he promised a month or two of advance warning, admitting he "bombed on that one in epic fashion." He also describes the last ditch effort to save the company that failed because Rhode Island refused to go along with the plan, and addresses accusations that his acceptance of tax credits and loan guarantees from the state were hypocritical in light of his outspoken conservative viewpoints: "I don't know how that correlates to this. I donít have any problem with government helping entrepreneurs and businesses." Thanks JJ.

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65. Re: Curt Schilling on 38 Studios' Demise Jun 23, 2012, 03:14 cappy
 
RollinThundr wrote on Jun 23, 2012, 01:38:
Neither side wants to work with the other, and neither side is serious about cutting spending.

The dems only want to cut the military. repubs want to cut social spending, and really with how fucked up the welfare system is with the amount of loopholes it has, I dunno call me unfeeling or an asshole or whatever, but I kinda side more with the GOP on where to cut.

When I was growing up I was taught that no one is going to hold my hand or give me a life or a roof over my head, I was taught to work hard, and earn shit. People nowadays don't get that. They expect government to hold their hand.

I get it, you need some form of social net for those who can't work, or temporarily fall on hard times and need a hand, I have no issue with that. But our welfare system is completely broken and doesn't at all work that way.

I also have no issue with raising taxes since they're the lowest they've ever been pretty much.

The things I have a problem with however is increasing government size and them dictating how people should live, Bloomberg with his wanting to ban surgary drinks or snacks from movie theaters as an example. That tends to be what liberals are about on the social level. They want government to decide for them because god forbid they're responsible for themselves. That and the whole political correctness bullshit. Obama with his "Bush's fault Bush's fault I'ma go play some golf" Hey O, you've almost served a full term now, the Bush's fault excuse is wearing a tad thin. The libs gave Bush so much shit anytime he took a vacation or played golf, Obama's played over 100 rounds so far. The media could care less. MSN is so soft on the guy it's not even funny.

I also can't stand the people he tends to associate himself with. Marxists and socialists. Fact of the matter is aside from making the right call about going in after Bin Laden he's not kept one campaign promise, (and yes I realize they all lie, they're politicians that's what they all do regardless of party)

But for a guy who campaigned on transparency and turning this country around, he's done the opposite, spent even more than Bush, quicker than Bush, and has done more back room deals and played bipartisan games after preaching about working with the GOP and being a "transparent administration. Kudos on him sealing those fast and furious documents btw. Wouldn't want to paint himself in a bad light, especially if he was at all involved. Add in his love for the UN above his own citizens with his apologize for America tour and the kowtowing he does to anyone and everyone except Israel.

And please don't solely try to blame the GOP on passing a budget. Every single one of Obama's budget proposals has been unanimously defeated by both sides, 414-0, 97-0. The man is not a fiscal conservative by any means. His spending shows it. His own party won't even vote for his budgets. That should mean something.

On the Buffet thing, I'll start taking him seriously when he pays all the back taxes his company owes. Until then he and his secretary can eat a dick.

Welfare as LBJ devised it wasn't going as intended, which is why Clinton and the Gingrich Congress did a massive reform and significantly reduced the number on welfare (let alone "permanent" welfare). When we look at budget numbers for "welfare," a lot of it is still being dominated by those receiving temporary benefits due to the economic issues and rise in unemployment rates. These temporary welfare rolls have swollen as a result. Unemployment insurance especially has become a significant part of "welfare"-related government expenditures. But the majority of these programs are designed with a time limit. There are still ways for some to receive benefits over extended periods of time, but it's nothing close to what it was 20 years ago.

In any event, as you say there is nothing wrong with a social net for those who temporarily fall on hard times or can't work (I assume you mean for disability reasons). And the problem is that some people will abuse any system ever created. There are no perfect systems. The best that can be done is to try to ensure that, on the whole, the system benefits some. And hold out noses because we know that some cheaters and abusers of the system will also get through. Same for business - some businesses engage in illegal activities. On the whole, businesses mostly toe close to the line. So we keep businesses going and we regulate to try to reduce the abuses. Nothing is perfect and we either accept imperfect systems and try to keep an eye on them, or we abandon them.

I'm of mixed opinions on the public health legislation. Cigarette smoking and other "collective" regulations are fine. Because it isn't just the smoker who breathes the air, and it isn't just a driver who gets to breathe the leaded exhaust belching from a tailpipe. It's the greater mass of nearby pedestrians. Sugary drink bans seem ridiculous to me, though. Having restaurants make calorie counts available is fine, so people have a choice.

But what conservatives call "political correctness" goes both ways. Liberals often tend to legislate people's behavior for reasons of health (foods, pollution, etc.) while conservatives do the same for reasons of morality (defining marriage, trying to return to covenant divorce laws rather than the looser no-fault rules, Sunday Blue Laws, etc.). It tends to strike me as much as one side pointing at the other side's "wasteful pork spending" while stuffing their own hand surreptitiously in the trough.

Caveat: libertarians don't try to legislate morality if they're truly abiding by their platform. Although many who claim they're libertarian are not, probably because the platform's social positions are way to the left of even the Democratic Party. Sort of a "best of extremes of both worlds."

I don't see much different from what Obama has done as far as dealing with obstinate opposition than most other Presidents since we elected the first one. Backroom deals and pulling executive orders out of the hat are pretty standard fare. But everyone reacts like it's a new trick each time a new guy gets elected. The exact same accusations were leveled against Bush. Bush campaigned as a "uniter not a divider" and then leveraged a pretty sharp political mind (Rove) to his benefit. I particularly liked the Bush-Mount Rushmore moment (you can Google the pictures). They positioned the press cameras so his profile would fit in place next to the others on the mountain. He had slick production and played jujitsu legislation and policy that forced even people like Hillary Clinton to kowtow and fall in line for awhile.

For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of Presidents taking long public holidays where there's an appearance they're living apart during troubled times. But it's been awhile since Presidents buckled down and put in a tough four years without taking weeks off and getting photographed golfing, yachting, and so on.

I didn't lay the blame on the GOP about the Senate not passing budget proposals. The articles I cited laid out what was happening pretty clearly, I thought.

As far as Buffett goes, big firms discover tax liabilities all the time. It usually comes from audits (internal or external) that uncover incorrect treatment of financial vehicles or charges. So they restate and deal with it. There are very few articles about this - all dating from last year. And according to them, the tax liability was self-reported by Berkshire rather than being the result of an IRS levy or investigation (although it's certainly possible an IRS inquiry led to the discovery) and they're working toward paying it which they certainly will do. No one voluntarily announces a tax liability in a 10-K and then blows off the IRS.
 
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