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Curt Schilling on 38 Studios' Demise

Former baseball star Curt Schilling was interviewed this morning on the Dennis & Callahan sports radio show on WEEI in Boston in the first such appearance since the demise of 38 Studios, the developer he founded. Boston.com quotes some of the conversation where Schilling spoke of investing all of his personal assets into the company while never a penny back out. He also says his former employees "have every right to be upset" as they were "blindsided" by the studio's closure after he promised a month or two of advance warning, admitting he "bombed on that one in epic fashion." He also describes the last ditch effort to save the company that failed because Rhode Island refused to go along with the plan, and addresses accusations that his acceptance of tax credits and loan guarantees from the state were hypocritical in light of his outspoken conservative viewpoints: "I don't know how that correlates to this. I donít have any problem with government helping entrepreneurs and businesses." Thanks JJ.

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60. Re: Curt Schilling on 38 Studios' Demise Jun 23, 2012, 01:45 RollinThundr
 
cappy wrote on Jun 23, 2012, 01:32:
RollinThundr wrote on Jun 22, 2012, 20:47:
No no they haven't. They paid back some of it. Plain and simple the Government should have given them jack shit. It's humorous to me, that you liberals cry about corporate welfare but if a dem is at all involved. Hey it's ok!

The problem is spending, regardless of who the president is, we spend far far more than what we take in. Here you have a president who added 5 trillion to our debt in less than one term. You're fine with that. Yet cried like little girls about Bush's spending. If you're going to bitch at least be consistent with it.

Hell you have a president who hasn't passed a budget in nearly 4 years. Yet that's quite alright, let's just spend some more money it'll automagically fix the economy and hey let's blame corporations! Oh except Apple, because we liberals like our Iphones. Oh and the Rich people who pay the most taxes in this country, well they should pay more so those people too lazy to get a fucking job living on welfare can have some more welfare, because really, they're entitled to it.

So I assume since you're arguing from a fiscal conservatism standpoint that you're very critical of Reagan and George W. Bush (along with Obama), but would praise both H.W. Bush and Clinton. For consistency, at least.

jdreyer already pointed out earlier in the thread about a survey where self-identified Republicans (who probably consider themselves "conservative" but probably more from social viewpoints than fiscal ones) are alarmed about the state of the budget but don't want to cut spending or raise taxes - either or both of which would be needed to balance a budget. I don't ever want to be stuck sitting in the middle of a railroad crossing with a person like that at the wheel, because they will neither want to go forward nor back.

Some folks aren't getting jobs because, well, because jobs are hard to find. That's why we have unemployment rates. Not because people are too lazy and stubborn to bring the unemployment rate by forcing companies to hire them when the companies don't have openings.

While I've no doubt anyone can point to a local grocery store that could use a few more part-time sackers and cashiers - those kinds of jobs don't replace a lot of the ones that were lost. And those kinds of places don't like to hire "over-qualified" workers anyway. That's assuming the grocery store even wants to hire more sackers and cashiers. Businesses have focused more attention on increasing productivity with leaner crews for many years now, and this becomes especially true during recessions.

Apple is being sued by the federal government - I'm sure you'll be happy to hear and I'm surprised you haven't. It's an anti-trust lawsuit relating to violations of the Sherman Act. They are alleged to have colluded with the largest publishing firms in the U.S. in a price-fixing scheme. Apple and two publishers have chosen to fight it in court (or likely, delay and eventually settle). Two publishers settled. One publisher is state's witness and turned over plenty of documentation that was quite revelatory about executives promising to "double-delete" incriminating emails while Apple executives did "nudge-nudge, wink-wink" meetings with them.

As far as those who pay taxes, remember that many of the largest Fortune 500 firms pay no taxes. There are a good many low-income Americans who pay no federal income taxes as well. Although whenever people like to trot that one out, they conveniently overlook that this demographic has a very large percentage of retired people. But I suppose after working all their lives, they should still continue to pay federal income taxes so people won't spit on them for shirking in their later years. Also, a large cohort of students and late teens early in careers or working part-time jobs - many or most of whom gravitate into federal-income-tax-paying work. And most are paying payroll taxes, as well as state sales and consumption taxes (since virtually every state has sales taxes) as well as indirect taxes like property taxes which are embedded in rents - since most people in lower incomes rent rather than own property.

Actually I didn't like Bush JR at all either for the same spending reasons. Ronnie did spend alot, but we were fighting a technological cold war with the Russians. Though to be honest, there's alot that Reagan did that I didn't agree with either. However, Reagan was a far better leader than Obama and Bush put together.

Clinton I didn't have too many issues with either, aside from his policy changes that got the ball rolling on the eventual recession.
 
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