This isn't to say it won't be fun, but it's grounded purely in adolescent fantasy. (this one actually reminds me a little bit of the feel of combat Shogo had in multiplayer, fast-action Mecha, deadly weapons...what's not to like?)

Draugr wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 02:00:

bhcompy wrote on Jun 19, 2012, 22:25:
I'm conflicted. I like MechWarrior, but Hawken looks like the mech game to play.

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The comparisons between hawken and Mechwarrior ends at Giant robot....one of this is more of a simulator(traditionally anyway) and one of them is a FPS.

But, instead, I'll just wait and see how things turn out...

Lokust wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 16:48:
I think if they had put up a kickstarter with donation packages in these three tiers a lot more people would be thinking it was cool. For some reason some folks think it's greedy of them to offer these directly. The legendary package is obviously not a great value, but represents an investment in the game - and being in the game's credits as such reflects that.

Orogogus wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 19:22:

Rea1One wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 19:16:
Stuff that im not even going to bother with this game anymore and just stick with Hawken & Planetside 2.

...those are both going to be free to play games, too, which are almost certainly going to have similar income streams.

Rea1One wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 19:16:
Stuff that im not even going to bother with this game anymore and just stick with Hawken & Planetside 2.

Jack9 wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 06:09:

RollinThundr wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 00:33:
I don't know what the fuck a C-Bill is but I'm sure it helps you kill shit better.

C-bills are a currency. This means will clearly translate to a silver coin boost in HoN. Lemme tell you, at 3k coins per "custom avatar", no basic 2% or 10% boost will mean anything. Any % boost can be trivialized by large enough scale or "optional currency". So you're inexperienced, trolling, or legitimately stupid. These strung together concepts are not guesses, they are the landscape of modern gaming.

theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 07:24:
Surely unlocking mechs would give you an advantage, along with the exclusive mechs? And if XP allows you to unlock additional weapons then those that pay would again be getting an advantage. If the perks were entirely cosmetic that would be an entirely different affair, though they would have already stated that (just like Valve did when announcing that Dota2 was F2P). We've seen the same shit enough times to know exactly how it's going to play out. At the end of the day I'm really not a fan of games that feature XP and unlocks, outside of RPGs like Diablo III - I found it annoying in BF2, in COD, etc. It's bizarre that you'd give advantages to those that are better or play more often, as that only increases the difficulty for newcomers - it's completely contrary.

Valve is the only company to have done F2P play in a decent way. If MWO was a pay-for game then I might have been interested, but I'm not a fan of this kiddy ADHD unlocks/XP nonsense.

theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 07:24:

Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 03:07:
That said, all of you making accusations of P2W are basing it on nothing really. The only info we have shows that you'll earn XP/C-Bills faster, so you can unlock different mechs and such.

Haven't seen anything that would actually give you an advantage in the game, and not one of you has pointed to any actual evidence of that.

Surely unlocking mechs would give you an advantage, along with the exclusive mechs? And if XP allows you to unlock additional weapons then those that pay would again be getting an advantage. If the perks were entirely cosmetic that would be an entirely different affair, though they would have already stated that (just like Valve did when announcing that Dota2 was F2P). We've seen the same shit enough times to know exactly how it's going to play out. At the end of the day I'm really not a fan of games that feature XP and unlocks, outside of RPGs like Diablo III - I found it annoying in BF2, in COD, etc. It's bizarre that you'd give advantages to those that are better or play more often, as that only increases the difficulty for newcomers - it's completely contrary.

Valve is the only company to have done F2P play in a decent way. If MWO was a pay-for game then I might have been interested, but I'm not a fan of this kiddy ADHD unlocks/XP nonsense.

Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 03:07:
That said, all of you making accusations of P2W are basing it on nothing really. The only info we have shows that you'll earn XP/C-Bills faster, so you can unlock different mechs and such.

Haven't seen anything that would actually give you an advantage in the game, and not one of you has pointed to any actual evidence of that.

RollinThundr wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 00:33:
I don't know what the fuck a C-Bill is but I'm sure it helps you kill shit better.

DangerDog wrote on Jun 20, 2012, 00:07:
Microsoft obviously isn't happy about EA winning that worst company ever award.

bhcompy wrote on Jun 19, 2012, 22:25:
I'm conflicted. I like MechWarrior, but Hawken looks like the mech game to play.