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23. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 22, 2012, 15:19 Mr. Tact
 
After finding Classic Shell I'm pretty happy with Win 7 at this point.  
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22. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 20, 2012, 20:12 Ant
 
W8 drives me loco!  
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21. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 21:16 nin
 
Julio wrote on Jun 15, 2012, 20:25:
Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 15, 2012, 20:08:
Is Win 8 even being targeted for PCs? I thought it was a tablet only OS.

Its a tablet OS that they're trying to fool PC buyers into purchasing. This has 'worst PC software product of all time' written all over it.

That's the biggest point that has me scratching my head. It's not like the vast majority of people have giant touchscreens hooked up to their computers at home. Is this somehow supposed to drive them to buy one? And if they don't have one, what's the fucking point?

 
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20. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 20:25 Julio
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 15, 2012, 20:08:
Is Win 8 even being targeted for PCs? I thought it was a tablet only OS.

Its a tablet OS that they're trying to fool PC buyers into purchasing. This has 'worst PC software product of all time' written all over it.
 
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19. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 20:08 Mr. Tact
 
Is Win 8 even being targeted for PCs? I thought it was a tablet only OS.  
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18. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 17:10 eRe4s3r
 
How about you actually TRY windows 8 before thinking everyone but you got it wrong?

Metro is REQUIRED
Metro is what you LOGIN to.
Metro is what you will be FORCED to go through to even *get* to the Windows Explorer
And when Windows explorer closes, you are back IN METRO (and this happens more often than you think)

So yeah, Windows 8 has 2 UI's.. but you need to go through Metro at all times.
 
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17. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 16:26 Beamer
 
avianflu wrote on Jun 15, 2012, 13:49:
Beamer I wish it were that simple; I've been using the "preview" and you'll get dumped into Metro at various points using the "classic desktop" and it is annoying.

And you cant put document shortcuts on metro, which will surely annoy many. App shortcuts yes. Docs no.

All you can really do is learn the new keyboard shortcuts since anything else will slow you down.

I had heard they were fixing the document issue.

I do agree with everyone saying that it's way premature to combine two form factor OSs, especially bringing one down to the other, but I don't think this is the disaster people make it out to be. I think it's worth no more than $15, if that, so clearly I'm not high on it, I'm just not joining the "hee hee hee BALLMER!" group.
 
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16. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 16:19 Optional nickname
 
Since Windows 3.1 and Dos 5.0 , Windows 8 will be the first MS OS, I will never ever bother to install and even try.

Nice one Microsoft, at least you did something unique for a change, you produced a windows worthy of worst software launch title in history. Don't even lie to us about volume sales, if people want touch, they will buy Android or Apple iPads, stay the hell away from this segment.
 
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15. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 13:49 avianflu
 
Beamer I wish it were that simple; I've been using the "preview" and you'll get dumped into Metro at various points using the "classic desktop" and it is annoying.

And you cant put document shortcuts on metro, which will surely annoy many. App shortcuts yes. Docs no.

All you can really do is learn the new keyboard shortcuts since anything else will slow you down.
 
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14. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 12:41 Dmitri_M
 
I don't see you being able to avoid metro completely.

Your argument is "Yeah Metro is useless but guys I'm sure you can avoid it! Here look at the screenshot they've left 75% of the existing UI as is!". Why didn't they just leave all of the existing UI in place and allow us to disable the super sized start menu app store (Metro) then?

Nothing wrong with letting MS know when they've made a blunder.

 
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13. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 10:47 Beamer
 
Dmitri_M wrote on Jun 15, 2012, 10:25:
Beamer wrote on Jun 15, 2012, 07:31:
Did you guys see that Microsoft made some changes to the desktop side earlier this week?

On that note, why does EVERYONE seem to think Metro is the only thing Windows 8 is? It has a desktop side that looks exactly like Windows 7, less Aero and a Start button (two weird decisions.) I'm not high on Windows 8, but it drives me mad when people ignore that it has two UIs (not that such things ever sound like a good idea.)

It doesn't have "two UIs". It has Metro grafted on top of the existing desktop. There's no way to disable Metro.

Metro is a moronic UI overthink. Why would a desktop user want a massive UI that fills his entire 30 inch screen? I'll be skipping this iteration of Windows, thanks.

That said, I could probably survive the loss of the start button. As it is I pin all needed applications to my taskbar. I no longer use Windows Explorer, only access the start menu for control panel (which I really should just pin to the task bar too).

You don't disable Metro, you just don't use it. You use this.

Doesn't seem so end of the world to me. Metro looks great for tablets and terrible for desktops, but if you don't have to use it and if the other aspects make it run better than Windows 7 I'll upgrade (assuming I can get that $15 upgrade - for anything else I won't.) I don't think bridging the desktop/tablet gap makes any sense right now, but I think people panicking as if they'll be doing everything on giant, oversized squares are really kind of missing the point. If you have a desktop you'd probably never once use that after the startup screen.

 
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12. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 10:25 Dmitri_M
 
Beamer wrote on Jun 15, 2012, 07:31:
Did you guys see that Microsoft made some changes to the desktop side earlier this week?

On that note, why does EVERYONE seem to think Metro is the only thing Windows 8 is? It has a desktop side that looks exactly like Windows 7, less Aero and a Start button (two weird decisions.) I'm not high on Windows 8, but it drives me mad when people ignore that it has two UIs (not that such things ever sound like a good idea.)

It doesn't have "two UIs". It has Metro grafted on top of the existing desktop. There's no way to disable Metro.

Metro is a moronic UI overthink. Why would a desktop user want a massive UI that fills his entire 30 inch screen? I'll be skipping this iteration of Windows, thanks.

That said, I could probably survive the loss of the start button. As it is I pin all needed applications to my taskbar. I no longer use Windows Explorer, only access the start menu for control panel (which I really should just pin to the task bar too).

I bought Windows 7. Why would I bother buying Windows 8 if it's just the existing desktop UI with Metro dog turd coiled on top.

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11. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 07:57 crypto
 
Going off ms release cycle win8 will suck just like 95, me and vista... 98 is what 95 should have been, xp is what me should have been and win7 is what vista should have been.  
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10. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 07:31 Beamer
 
Did you guys see that Microsoft made some changes to the desktop side earlier this week?

On that note, why does EVERYONE seem to think Metro is the only thing Windows 8 is? It has a desktop side that looks exactly like Windows 7, less Aero and a Start button (two weird decisions.) I'm not high on Windows 8, but it drives me mad when people ignore that it has two UIs (not that such things ever sound like a good idea.)

 
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9. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 03:16 eunichron
 
The only way I'll even possibly consider getting Win8 is if it comes on a new laptop (I'm about due for a new one in the next 6 months or so). The only way I'll actually use it is if there is a way to disable Metro entirely.  
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8. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 03:06 Silicon Avatar
 
I don't see myself migrating to Win8 anytime soon - if ever.

It just looks like another one of Ballmer's brain farts.
 
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7. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 01:23 SectorEffector
 
Dmitri_M wrote on Jun 15, 2012, 00:10:
eRe4s3r wrote on Jun 14, 2012, 21:48:
Unless you fancy RSI within 2 years touch screens will never be more than a gimmick in actual work environments so no fear of anyone upgrading to W8 Whoever thought its smart to have to physically move your entire arm/shoulder to touch something on a screen needs to be smacked, very VERY hard.
Yeah the only people who think touch screen interfaces are conducive to productivity are apple fanboy tech "journalists" who don't actually do any real work dependent on computers.

as a happy owner of a macbook pro I agree whole heartedly that touch screen needs to die on the power user end.
 
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6. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 15, 2012, 00:10 Dmitri_M
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Jun 14, 2012, 21:48:
Unless you fancy RSI within 2 years touch screens will never be more than a gimmick in actual work environments so no fear of anyone upgrading to W8 Whoever thought its smart to have to physically move your entire arm/shoulder to touch something on a screen needs to be smacked, very VERY hard.
Yeah the only people who think touch screen interfaces are conducive to productivity are apple fanboy tech "journalists" who don't actually do any real work dependent on computers.
 
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5. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 14, 2012, 22:46 PropheT
 
nin wrote on Jun 14, 2012, 21:24:
The company I'm at is just now moving to Win7/Office 10 (we have a ton of custom in house software we've had to migrate/rewrite/virt term). Win8? Not even being discussed.

Same where I work. I can't see them ever migrating to Win8, honestly; it'll be out before we even finish migrating completely to Win7.
 
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4. Re: Evening Tech Bits Jun 14, 2012, 22:46 MajorD
 
necrosis wrote on Jun 14, 2012, 21:15:
Will Windows 7 be the new XP

Yes. At least with me unless Win8 makes some drastic UI decisions that I know it wont.

I'm with you on that one without a doubt.


 
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