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Blizzard on Cheating

An update on the Diablo III Website reminds users of Blizzard's stance on cheating, which can result in offenders being banned from playing the action/RPG sequel:

Blizzard Entertainment has always taken cheating in any form in Blizzard games very seriously, and that's no different for Diablo® III. If a Diablo III player is found to be cheating or using hacks, bots, or modifications in any form, then as outlined in the Diablo III end user license agreement, that player can be permanently banned from the game. This means that the player will be permanently unable to log in to Battle.net® to play Diablo III with his or her account.

Playing Diablo III legitimately means playing with an unaltered game client. Doing otherwise violates our policies for Battle.net and Diablo III, and it goes against the spirit of fair play that all of our games are based on. We strongly recommend that you avoid using any hacks, cheats, bots, or exploits. Suspensions and bans of players that have used or start using cheats and hacks will begin in the near future.

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28. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 12, 2012, 09:04 Verno
 
Damage has been done, there is already too much botted gold in the economy. It's ridiculous difficult to sell things in certain level ranges now, people just save because they know the ilvl 61-63 stuff is insanely priced.  
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27. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 12, 2012, 05:41 Dev
 
Sempai wrote on Jun 12, 2012, 03:29:
Yet another reason there should be an offline mode for the customer, but that would defeat the purpose of their 15% cut of each transaction, and the oh so safe monitoring by our heroes at Blizzard.

This company is now run by a bunch of tools.
No, its more than 15%. 15% is just the cost to get the money to paypal. Its more like a 30% cut (on commodities).
 
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26. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 12, 2012, 03:29 Sempai
 
Watch out! Bliz is serious bidness!

Almost as much as they care about the constant gold spam in chat in a channel they forced onto the community with the added bonus of having to shut it off each time one logs into their safe and sound DRM online service.

Yet another reason there should be an offline mode for the customer, but that would defeat the purpose of their 15% cut of each transaction, and the oh so safe monitoring by our heroes at Blizzard.

This company is now run by a bunch of tools.
 
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25. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 12, 2012, 02:49 Dev
 
Creston wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 22:55:
That said, would they care about the gold anyway? I can see they cared in WoW, as it was a sizable pie they never got a slice of, but once the RMAH starts up, they get 15 or 30%? I think they'll be cheering on the chinese goldfarmers at that point.

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Because if its all botted and duped gold, gold will be pretty worthless and the supply will be hugely inflated (almost like real life). At some point it will max out on the maximum amount of gold an item can sell for in the AH, whatever arbitrary limit blizzard has set. I don't know what that is. Lets say its 999,999 gold per item (aka 1 million gold). If gold is selling for $1 per million gold, then that means the maximum item price would only ever be $1 in the gold AH. The RMAH would be affected by that hyper inflation since the common factor is gold. Something like that would move all the best items from the AH to the RMAH since the max price per item over there is something like $250 rather than the $1 it would be in this scenario. Any decent items on the AH would be snapped up immediately by farmers so they could resell on the RMAH for more than $1. I wouldn't sell my Radiant Star gems in the gold AH if the only place I could get anything reasonable for them would be the RMAH.

You know how the AH is almost a required thing for doing higher difficulties like inferno? Well if gold is hyper inflated, the RMAH would take its place as almost a required thing to use.
 
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24. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 23:13 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Given the miserable job Blizzard did in testing the game before release, and their apparent lack of interest in doing anything to control the cheating that has been happening since day one, I sure wouldn't have any confidence in their Warden system to do much of anything to improve the situation. That would presume that they actually put significant thought and testing into it and that they'll actually follow through with enough banning to make a difference. What are the odds?

So glad I didn't buy into this game.
 
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23. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 22:55 Creston
 
Ozmodan wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 17:25:
Lets face it, cheating is not uncommon in Diablo III, Blizzard can't seem to track all the hacked gold out there, the gold sellers are spamming channels like mad with all the stolen gold.

You would think Blizzard would be smart enough to control such at least somewhat, but at the moment it is a zoo.


Don't be ridiculous! Diablo 3 does not have cheats or bots or hacks, Blizzard themselves said so. It's the main benefit of their always-on DRM.

That said, would they care about the gold anyway? I can see they cared in WoW, as it was a sizable pie they never got a slice of, but once the RMAH starts up, they get 15 or 30%? I think they'll be cheering on the chinese goldfarmers at that point.

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22. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 20:58 Dev
 
Cpmartins wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 20:54:
Two months ago while playing WoW I started noticing this person. Why did I notice it? Because every time I was in Darnassus, it'd be at the AH. So I stopped and started watching. Every 5 minutes it would leave the auctioneer and run towards the mailbox. The thing is, it'd go through that action repeating exactly the same path, and actions. And I mean exactly. a third of the way it would jump, then go a little to the left, then course correct and go toward the mailbox. Of course it was a bot. So I reported it. And then I reported it everyday since. It is still there, doing EXACTLY what it did 2 months ago.

That's how good actibliz is at detecting this crap.
Thats only part of it. It also means they totally ignore reports. They could let the community help them and do a big part of the work of finding them (at least in WoW, in D3 its not as easy). All they have to do is check the reports and spend just a few minutes checking them out.

I think those report buttons are just there to make people feel good for reporting things like bots and spammers.
 
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21. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 20:54 Cpmartins
 
Two months ago while playing WoW I started noticing this person. Why did I notice it? Because every time I was in Darnassus, it'd be at the AH. So I stopped and started watching. Every 5 minutes it would leave the auctioneer and run towards the mailbox. The thing is, it'd go through that action repeating exactly the same path, and actions. And I mean exactly. a third of the way it would jump, then go a little to the left, then course correct and go toward the mailbox. Of course it was a bot. So I reported it. And then I reported it everyday since. It is still there, doing EXACTLY what it did 2 months ago.

That's how good actibliz is at detecting this crap.
 
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20. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 20:50 FloorPie
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 18:47:
Ozmodan wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 17:25:
Lets face it, cheating is not uncommon in Diablo III, Blizzard can't seem to track all the hacked gold out there, the gold sellers are spamming channels like mad with all the stolen gold.

You would think Blizzard would be smart enough to control such at least somewhat, but at the moment it is a zoo.


Who uses chat channels and who would ever play in a public game!?

First thing I do when I connect is "Leave Channel".

Indeed, and many who are smart do that but it kind of defeats that whole, "Diablo is about multiplayer community so online only fits well" sales pitch blizzard has been pushing.

Yes, I'm sure many people pirated D2/SC but I mostly avoided bnet and played with trusted friends (reallife and online only) via directIP connections or those evil bnet emulators to avoid hackers and more importantly, avoid lag and connect easily with players in Europe/Oz.
 
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19. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 20:27 Ratty
 
Fletch wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 17:29:
There is no cheating in Diablo III. The online requirement and securing of key player, game, and runtime files behind Blizzard's digital redoubt have rendered the possibility of cheating ridiculous.
+1 for the use of the term "digital redoubt"
 
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18. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 20:16 Dev
 
They admit they haven't bothered to ban anyone for cheating/hacking a month after the game is out!? They SERIOUSLY need to rethink the wave of bans thing, and be banning cheaters/hackers/botters continually. And maybe not ignore reports. Heck, any spamming report should automatically go to a chat history timestamped at the time of the report so they can see if the person was advertising black market services.

Waiting a month or three between waves just means that all those people can destroy the game economy in the meantime. Blizzard should have made securing the game and the auction house their FIRST priority from release time, after all, wasn't that the purpose of delaying the RMAH release? Wasn't that the point of no offline mode? Instead their priority seems to have been these little skill hotfixes and trying to stop a couple farming hotspots. They have been REACTING to the problem, curing the symptoms. They need to be PROACTIVE and go after the root causes

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17. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 20:12 Julio
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 18:47:
Who uses chat channels and who would ever play in a public game!?

First thing I do when I connect is "Leave Channel".

Well Blizzard forces me now into a public chat channel on login where the whole channel gets instaspammed 90% of the time from some Chinese gold farmer. Blizzard makes sure we get our gold farmer advertisting everytime.

When the game started, it didn't force me into the public chat channels...but we can't have that.
 
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16. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 19:53 Sepharo
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 18:47:
Ozmodan wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 17:25:
Lets face it, cheating is not uncommon in Diablo III, Blizzard can't seem to track all the hacked gold out there, the gold sellers are spamming channels like mad with all the stolen gold.

You would think Blizzard would be smart enough to control such at least somewhat, but at the moment it is a zoo.


Who uses chat channels and who would ever play in a public game!?

First thing I do when I connect is "Leave Channel".

Sounds like you would benefit from a single player mode. Save some clicks.
 
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15. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 19:05 xXBatmanXx
 
ASeven wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 18:09:
But...but...but..... being online always means NO CHEATING!!!1!!1!!

You will never defeat the cheaters - no company is willing to take the hardline stand that it takes as it might piss off regular players. It can be done - but no one will do it.

Not even offline NES games are immune.
 
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14. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 18:47 xXBatmanXx
 
Ozmodan wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 17:25:
Lets face it, cheating is not uncommon in Diablo III, Blizzard can't seem to track all the hacked gold out there, the gold sellers are spamming channels like mad with all the stolen gold.

You would think Blizzard would be smart enough to control such at least somewhat, but at the moment it is a zoo.


Who uses chat channels and who would ever play in a public game!?

First thing I do when I connect is "Leave Channel".
 
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13. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 18:26 Cutter
 
ASeven wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 18:09:
But...but...but..... being online always means NO CHEATING!!!1!!1!!

Lulz! I was just about to post the exact same thing, almost word for word.
 
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12. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 18:09 ASeven
 
But...but...but..... being online always means NO CHEATING!!!1!!1!!  
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11. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 18:01 Rattlehead
 
Tumbler wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 17:00:
Fix the "offline Mode". It's not working.
Oh ho ho clever
 
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10. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 18:00 Rattlehead
 
Fletch wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 17:29:
There is no cheating in Diablo III. The online requirement and securing of key player, game, and runtime files behind Blizzard's digital redoubt have rendered the possibility of cheating ridiculous. Be at ease, customers. Blizzard wouldn't lease you a game in which your online experience, protected by our wise and prescient decision to require a persistent connection for ALL game modes, could be usurped by cheaters and hackers. It is not possible. It was the very reason we championed for a persistent connection in the first place. We do not lie.

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9. Re: Blizzard on Cheating Jun 11, 2012, 17:29 Fletch
 
There is no cheating in Diablo III. The online requirement and securing of key player, game, and runtime files behind Blizzard's digital redoubt have rendered the possibility of cheating ridiculous. Be at ease, customers. Blizzard wouldn't lease you a game in which your online experience, protected by our wise and prescient decision to require a persistent connection for ALL game modes, could be usurped by cheaters and hackers. It is not possible. It was the very reason we championed a persistent connection in the first place. We do not lie.

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