Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

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An article on Blend Games contains a video they say demonstrates that item duping was possible in Diablo III before a hotfix addressed this. All the clip demonstrated for me is my inability to understand foreign languages, but this post explains how this took advantage of the game's checkpoint system to craft items at the cost of no resources, hopefully a moot point now that its fixed. They use this incident to once again question the game's inconvenient always-on DRM. They also discuss how Blizzard is handling account rollbacks in cases where accounts are compromised, taking issue with Battle.net account security as the launch of the real-money auction house for the action/RPG sequel nears. Speaking of which, this post (thanks nin via Kotaku) notes that Blizzard has changed the terms of service for Diablo III to require the use of their authenticator for real-money transactions:

Starting today, in order to add to your Battle.net Balance, players will be required to have a Battle.net Authenticator or Battle.net Mobile Authenticator attached to their Battle.net account. For clarity, this means you’ll need to have an Authenticator to add to your balance via Battle.net Account Management or to send the proceeds of your real-money auction house sales to your Battle.net Balance.

Please note that players who previously added Battle.net Balance to their account prior to this change will be able to use it to make eligible purchases on Battle.net and in the auction house without attaching an Authenticator. However, an Authenticator will be required to add to your balance in the future, as explained above.

While we understand that this creates an extra step for players during the login process, we believe this added layer of account protection will help foster a safer auction house environment for all of our players.

You can learn more about the Battle.net Authenticator, Battle.net Mobile Authenticator, and other account security information by clicking here.

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 16:30

Mashiki Amiketo

Smellfinger wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 16:21:

The end result is the same if RMHA is one of the reasons you purchased the game. Unless you have it, you're walled off from a major feature.

No it's not the same result. And you're not walled off, walling you off would require you to provide POD, plus proof of ident, plus several other things, while region locking it. If you were planning to use the RMAH you more than likely already had an authenticator, if you weren't using two factor authentication for something money related, you're asking for it to be taken.

Classic logical fallacy.

Incorrect. There's no fallacy there, rather the realities of economics. See my previous post on the other page, blizzard isn't allowed to hog all of the FOB's.

The problem is that it wasn't a requirement until after the game was released and millions of people bought the game with the assumption that RMAH would be a baseline feature.

It's still a baseline feature, so what's the problem? The AH is still there. The RMAH is still there. At the very worst and you're american you need to drop $6.50 and get one, or get one for free on your cellphone. In Canada and other parts of the americas you pay $17 in shipping(yay shipping), or get it free on your cellphone. Again, this still isn't a problem.




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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 16:26

Kajetan

theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 16:23: You cannot fault Blizzard for this move. But for NOT MENTIONING IT BEFORE THE RELEASE!

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 16:25

MoreLuckThanSkill

No one should ever use the RMAH. Personal opinion of course, but it definitely takes the point of the game away. That said, I got an authenticator after beta, when it became glaringly obvious this was going to be the most hacked/phished/exploited game in existence. Free on your (certain smart-)phone(s), free via WinAuth, or $6.50 for the physical device. Worth it to me personally, to avoid the headache of a stolen account, however low that possibility may be for me(strong passwords not reused anywhere, text only header only email, virus scanners etc.) Still having a lot of fun playing Diablo 3, looking forward to Torchlight 2, Grim Dawn, and Lineage Eternal. Most hilarity in D3 definitely revolves around people suicidally chasing down treasure goblins(Golden Axe potion gnomes) and/or getting blown up AFTER a molten elite dies. Player revive in multiplayer has turned out to be a nice and fun mechanic, as I often find myself reviving less safety-inclined friends in Boss battles.

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 16:23

Flatline

Parallax Abstraction wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 16:16: So you need an authenticator to use the RMAH. Making something more cumbersome and less accessible to use isn't how you drive adoption. I know it's really not that hard but a lot of non-hardcore gamers will be turned off it this way. At the moment the authenticator only shows up once a week or if you log in from a new IP address. I get why they do it. It'd be f*cking insane not to.

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 16:23

theyarecomingforyou

Parallax Abstraction wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 16:16:
So you need an authenticator to use the RMAH. Making something more cumbersome and less accessible to use isn't how you drive adoption. I know it's really not that hard but a lot of non-hardcore gamers will be turned off it this way.

Security comes before accessibility, especially given the degree to which Blizzard games are exploited. You cannot fault Blizzard for this move.




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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 16:21

Smellfinger

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 14:40: Yeah except the fob isn't a dongle. Different hardware The end result is the same if RMHA is one of the reasons you purchased the game. Unless you have it, you're walled off from a major feature. and plenty of people who've been playing WoW already have one. Why have two? Classic logical fallacy. At that, they sell them at cost. And you pay shipping so, what's the problem again? The problem is that it wasn't a requirement until after the game was released and millions of people bought the game with the assumption that RMAH would be a baseline feature.

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 16:16

Parallax Abstraction

So you need an authenticator to use the RMAH. Making something more cumbersome and less accessible to use isn't how you drive adoption. I know it's really not that hard but a lot of non-hardcore gamers will be turned off it this way.




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The only game worth watching is PoE

Jun 11, 2012, 16:15

Axis

Having played everything out there minus grim dawn or lineage eternal, Path of Exile is the only game worth watching.

I've played it religiously throughout the beta for 4 months so far and I still can't wait to log in everyday. Sure Id prefer it be released, but the game is addictive and the logical successor to the ARPG genre.

Don't wanna bash anything else, I know lots of ppl are hoping for TL2 to do well and maybe it will, but it was Fate with a modding future far as I'm concerned.




Yours truly, Axis

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 16:14

Prez

You are all a bunch of trolls.

Except for Blue, who is a baiter of trolls. He is no amatuer baiter, though. Oh no, not at all. He is a professional baiter. He is a master baiter.




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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 16:14

Alamar

And in other news... Fools double post... Or something : ) -Alamar

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 16:13

Alamar

MrBone wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 14:16: Anyone that uses real money in this game or any game is a fool. And you know what happens to fools. Anyone that tells others how using their real money is foolish, is a fool. And you know what happens to fools. -Alamar

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 16:07

Bet

Paketep wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 11:41: I'd love to make a rollback of Blizzard to before they where bought/merged with Acti and became this bunch of douchebags. Ah. You want to go back before the time colloquially known as 'The Insanity'. D3's p.good all things considered. Sucks about the rampant bots.

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 15:59

Mashiki Amiketo

RailWizard wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 14:59:
As you say, they are cheap. Why not ship them with all their games? So people end up with more than one, they DO run on batteries, so it will not go to waste anyway.

It's not like Blizzard is sitting in the poor house saving up for boxes of Kraft-Dinner and Kool-aid in order to sustain themselves..............

Blizzard isn't Vasco's only customer and they're only allowed a specific number of FOB's in a batch that's why. They(Vasco) have to have enough to cover banks, government, cellphone providers(yes you can get a external fob for your phone), other games that use them, and so on.

It's pure supply and demand. Blizzard simply isn't allowed to "hog the entire supply."




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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 15:52

ASeven

Well, the good news out of this mess is that T2 will have an even larger userbase. It's as if D2 ex-devs that are working on T2 knew this would happen. As more people get bored of D3, and it's quite a lot, and many more leave due to hacking, botting and bugs, this will ensure the MP part of T2 will be quite well populated and that T2 will sell just a little bit more. Seeing how Blizz is treating D3 I think T2 truly deserves all the success it can get. Still, sad that so many people bought D3, entitling the publishers to pull more always-online DRM. All for a game they got bored of pretty quickly. Sad.

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 15:38

Draugr

RailWizard wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 14:59: Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 14:40: Smellfinger wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 14:37: If Blizzard wants to add a dongle requirement to Diablo 3, they should include it in the box like every other product that uses this form of authentication. Yeah except the fob isn't a dongle. Different hardware, and plenty of people who've been playing WoW already have one. Why have two? At that, they sell them at cost. And you pay shipping so, what's the problem again? As you say, they are cheap. Why not ship them with all their games? So people end up with more than one, they DO run on batteries, so it will not go to waste anyway. It's not like Blizzard is sitting in the poor house saving up for boxes of Kraft-Dinner and Kool-aid in order to sustain themselves.............. Or they could put a voucher system in boxes or E-mail you a voucher for one..something like that. They should be doing this, at this point especially, considering they are now locking people out of features they paid for, UNLESS they pay for it...and that wasn't the agreement.

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 15:22

RollinThundr

Krovven wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 11:32: They use this incident to once again question the game's inconvenient always-on DRM. Really Blue? So this was fixed in a few days instead of a few months (ie: how it was for Diablo 2), and this brings into question the benefits of always-on? /facepalm If anything is shows the benefit of it. What does bring into question of the always-on, is the use of bots. They should have been stamped out just as quickly as the duping exploit. I dunno wasn't it you claming for months that always on DRM would prevent dupes and bots and shit? Oh hey look Krowen's wrong again as usual, SHOCKER I TELL YA!

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 15:19

Pest

Just wondering, if they change the eula and I dont agree, will I get my money back?

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 15:18

AngelicPenguin

Wallshadows wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 15:12: I know what you mean Creston and I feel as though it would be a fairly dangerous precedence to revive a HC character for those who have died to issues outside of their control. On the other hand, it is a risk and most of us may not even make it through Act 1 Normal without keeping the floor boss at bay; however, it feels like a giant cop out at the same time when you can be an incredibly skilled player and die due to server-side collision issues that may be nearly impossible to be aware of until it's too late. Without knowing how long or even whether or not this will be fixed in the future is simply up in the air and it becomes much worse when Blizzard is making little to no noise in regards to these issues and only addressing them if a certain number of complaints are made. If this is working as intended with their server-side infrastructure and little to no change is made, well, that's just bad news bears for those who stay for Hardcore. I think until these sorts of issues get ironed out, I would just play a regular character as if they were hard-core. It's like any rogue-like. You can backup your saves if you really want to, but you are only cheating yourself. I get you would lose some of those perks like the notice of how far you have gotten a hard-core character, but I think I would take that over losing 50+ hours.

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 15:14

AngelicPenguin

Luke wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 14:57: ASeven wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 12:06: But...but... being always online meant no item duping and bots!!!!11!!! Yeah, in the end the excuses they made to put this game online always ended up happening anyway. In another topic, master fanboi Krovven once again shows why he's quite the idiot. Hmm i wonder who is the idiot , those who play this money train , or those who may see what they are doing. Next up fingerprint gadget to identify that the Authenticator is yours. You fanbois keep eating every bit THEY come with thats one hell of a price to play a singelplayer game , and the more you fanbois (fanboys) keep saying "Okaaay " the more will come and other compagnies will dupe it and...ahh forget it blizz my ass they laugh even harder now at you fanibois So serious - it's just a little hack 'n slash game.

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Re: Diablo III Item Duping Hotfixed? RMAH to Require Authenticator

Jun 11, 2012, 15:12

Wallshadows

I know what you mean Creston and I feel as though it would be a fairly dangerous precedence to revive a HC character for those who have died to issues outside of their control. While it is a risk and most of us may not even make it through Act 1 Normal without keeping the floor boss at bay; however, it feels like a giant cop out at the same time when you can be an incredibly skilled player and die due to server-side collision issues that may be nearly impossible to be aware of until it's too late. HC should be about the player's skill, patience, and attention to detail rather than get smoked by something you simply cannot avoid. Without knowing how long or even whether or not this will be fixed in the future is simply up in the air and it becomes much worse when Blizzard is making little to no noise in regards to these issues and only addressing them if a certain number of complaints are made. If this is working as intended with their server-side infrastructure and little to no change is made, well, that's just bad news bears for those who stay for Hardcore. This comment was edited on Jun 11, 2012, 15:17.

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