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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 2, 2012, 09:26 |
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Beamer wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 14:26:
Jdrez wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 14:06:
Beamer wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 13:02:
bhcompy wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 00:58:
Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, Portal, and Team Fortress)
Well, if the people that did create those work for them, do you really need to cross it out?
The counter strike guy doesn't work there any more, but I believe Robin Walker does and his team created Quake TF.
Counterstrike was guyS. Jess Cliffe is still there.
Gooseman left to make a new CS clone with some Korean studio. My assumption is that he wasn't really Valve material. Gabe has said in interviews that many of Valve's older employees wouldn't even come close to being hired if they had applied today with the same skillset (not that he specifically meant Gooseman but you get the idea). I figure Gooseman felt he wasn't getting the proper attention/respect as the creator of the #1 competitive PC FPS so he decided to leave for some Koreans that would let him do as he wanted. As we know for a fact now Valve works on what they find interesting, I suspect Gooseman left right around when CS:GO was becoming a sure thing, probably nobody entertaining his ideas for a total reboot. |
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| [I'm not trolling I'm just] tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. -TrollinThundr |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 16:20 |
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bhcompy wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 15:19:
Beelzebud wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 14:21:
bhcompy wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 00:58:
Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, Portal, and Team Fortress)
That's got to be the dumbest criticism I've seen about a game company. TF2 and CS have been worked on by Valve longer than they were mods, and the people who created those were all given really nice jobs. The horror...
They're acquired properties. Rockstar doesn't claim they created the GTA franchise, they accurately attributed creation to the people that made it(Rockstar North, formerly DMA) in their GTA5 press release. What you're saying is like Valve claiming they created Action Quake 2 because Gooseman worked for Valve
Actually, it was created by DMA Design, who was purchased afterwards and renamed Rockstar North.
Team Fortress was created by Team Fortress, who was purchased by Valve and renamed Valve. Counterstrike was made by Mihn Lee and Jess Cliffe, whose company was purchased by Valve and renamed Valve.
So yes, Rockstar is doing the exact same thing by claiming Rockstar North created GTA. What's important is to pay attention to whether it was an asset sail or a merger/acquisition. All three of these cases were the latter. It wasn't the names moving, but the entire entity, including the people behind it. |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 15:19 |
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Beelzebud wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 14:21:
bhcompy wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 00:58:
Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, Portal, and Team Fortress)
That's got to be the dumbest criticism I've seen about a game company. TF2 and CS have been worked on by Valve longer than they were mods, and the people who created those were all given really nice jobs. The horror...
They're acquired properties. Rockstar doesn't claim they created the GTA franchise, they accurately attributed creation to the people that made it(Rockstar North, formerly DMA) in their GTA5 press release. What you're saying is like Valve claiming they created Action Quake 2 because Gooseman worked for Valve |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 14:26 |
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Jdrez wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 14:06:
Beamer wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 13:02:
bhcompy wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 00:58:
Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, Portal, and Team Fortress)
Well, if the people that did create those work for them, do you really need to cross it out?
The counter strike guy doesn't work there any more, but I believe Robin Walker does and his team created Quake TF.
Counterstrike was guyS. Jess Cliffe is still there. |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 14:21 |
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bhcompy wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 00:58:
Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, Portal, and Team Fortress)
That's got to be the dumbest criticism I've seen about a game company. TF2 and CS have been worked on by Valve longer than they were mods, and the people who created those were all given really nice jobs. The horror... |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 14:06 |
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Beamer wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 13:02:
bhcompy wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 00:58:
Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, Portal, and Team Fortress)
Well, if the people that did create those work for them, do you really need to cross it out?
The counter strike guy doesn't work there any more, but I believe Robin Walker does and his team created Quake TF. |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 13:02 |
Beamer |
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bhcompy wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 00:58:
Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, Portal, and Team Fortress)
Well, if the people that did create those work for them, do you really need to cross it out? |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 12:48 |
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Cutter wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 01:55:
I find this game to be very boring. It's just so repetitive.
Valid point, but like with most competitive games, repetition is made part of the game to establish a level playing field. Like fighting or sports games. There is no "spikes & lava" field for soccer, although it would make the game more interesting to me. 
I miss Mutant League sports games.
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 10:26 |
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vacs wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 06:12:
"Free-to-play" as in "more expensive in the end if you add up everything as games used to be just a few years ago"? Naw, valve doesn't need to try and squeeze everyone out of their last dime for money, they have plenty of it.
For example, TF2, you can get away without ever buying anything, and many of the important weapons you can get from achievements to unlock milestones. You can get drops and trade for others if needed.
Valve has said they saw 12000% increase in revenue from TF2 when it went free to play compared to all previous sales of it, so they know what they need to do. |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 09:40 |
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Jerykk wrote on Jun 1, 2012, 03:13:
It's much closer to the original DotA than LoL. You can kill your own creeps, terrain elevation affects visibility, you can destroy trees to create new paths through the jungle, etc. LoL is more casual.
LoL also doesn't charge real money for items(according to the article summary, thats it sounds like they're doing), has tighter character templates, has less item variability(there are many more items in DOTA2 as far as I can tell, but this isn't necessarily a good thing or a bad thing), and is graphically more accessible(though the recent update visually darkens the mood a bit like DOTA2) |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 06:12 |
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| "Free-to-play" as in "more expensive in the end if you add up everything as games used to be just a few years ago"? |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 03:13 |
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| It's much closer to the original DotA than LoL. You can kill your own creeps, terrain elevation affects visibility, you can destroy trees to create new paths through the jungle, etc. LoL is more casual. |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 03:06 |
InBlack |
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| How does this compare to League of Legends, or the original Dota? Can anyone who tried this give us short writeup please? |
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| I have a nifty blue line! |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 01:55 |
Cutter |
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I find this game to be very boring. It's just so repetitive.
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| "Are you crazy? Is that your problem?" - Jack Burton |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 00:58 |
bhcompy |
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Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, Portal, and Team Fortress) |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 00:48 |
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| It's nice to know that it will be purely cosmetic. Hopefully they continue that once they start releasing newly designed heroes (i.e. ones that were not in Dota All-stars). |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 00:39 |
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| Thank god for that! I've played Rise of Immortals a few times and enjoyed it, but the thing that really turns me off is having to learn a new hero every time because the one(s) I played before is no longer free... |
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Re: Dota 2 F2P & Store Details |
Jun 1, 2012, 00:32 |
Dev |
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Was there ever any doubt? 
At least its not pay 2 win:
Dota 2 will not be a pay-to-win game. All the items in the store are cosmetic, and don’t affect gameplay.
All of the heroes will be available free of charge. |
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