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Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers

Leisure Suit Larry creator Al Lowe and Replay Games tell VentureBeat they plan on suing Wisecrack Games to shut down a Kickstarter crowdfunding project, saying it infringes on their copyright and misrepresents Lowe's participation. In a separate campaign from Replay's campaign to Make Leisure Suit Larry come again, Wisecarck is seeking to raise $500,000 to create Sam Suede in Undercover Exposure, a revival of a project that Lowe was once a part of before it ran into funding problems. To that end, the page states: "This is not a revival or a remake. It’s a New original game based on the comedic game design by Al Lowe & Ken Wegrzyn." The page includes an image and bio of Lowe, which could certainly lead to the inaccurate impression he is currently directly connected to this fundraiser. "I think the blatant misuse of the Leisure Suit Larry name and copyrighted material shows clear disregard for copyright law," says Replay's Paul Trowe. "To piggyback on someone else’s success is not only rude but also illegal. Those who continue with this will be pursued to the fullest extent of the law. We are suing today." Wisecrack Games responds with the following statement: "Wisecrack Games has not infringed or otherwise violated any rights of Replay Games. Wisecrack’s references to Al Lowe’s accomplishments, including his work on the Leisure Suit Larry series, are truthful, come directly from Mr. Lowe’s website with his permission pursuant to a written agreement, and constitute de minimis and fair uses under applicable law." On a related note, there is a Leisure Suit Larry Team on Sex, Comedy and Kickstarter interview on GamesIndustry International.

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14. Re: Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers May 31, 2012, 06:04 NKD
 
This smells like a PR stunt to me, and I wouldn't put it past Al Lowe to do something like that.  
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13. Re: Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers May 31, 2012, 05:08 ibm
 
Hell, I'll side with the lawyers, anything to stop this rubbish.  
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12. Re: Replay games can't sue May 31, 2012, 01:38 Jerykk
 
I hope Lowe and Co. aren't going to use their Kickstarter funds for this lawsuit.  
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11. Replay games can't sue May 31, 2012, 00:10 eRe4s3r
 
Based on records of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and the U.S. Copyright Office, Replay Games owns neither the trademark nor copyright to Leisure Suit Larry

So this lawsuit is complete and utter bullshit. Although, I do have to admit that the non replay games kickstarter is very... odd. They clearly mention people who are not working with them. But what can Replay games sue for? Hurt feelings?
 
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10. Re: Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers May 30, 2012, 23:17 deqer
 
lol seriously? ...

even if there isn't an agreement; seriously going to bitch about something that's been dead for over a decade? "oh noes, someone is going to make money of this idea that we were never going to do anyways. let's sue them!"
 
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9. Re: Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers May 30, 2012, 21:32 Dev
 
Their comment on kickstarter about it:

Wisecrack Games does have a current agreement with Al Lowe for this Sam Suede Kickstarter campaign and has received approval from him for our launch, including our representations of this project. Anything stated to the contrary is patently false.

It could be the "current" agreement is something that was signed a decade ago.

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8. Re: Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers May 30, 2012, 21:25 Dev
 
nin wrote on May 30, 2012, 21:13:
Sepharo wrote on May 30, 2012, 20:45:
This is all pretty silly because Al Lowe is apparently in cahoots (or more specifically in contract) with these guys... Hell the top reward tier is lunch with Al Lowe.

Yeah, but we could make a KS with the top reward being lunch with Blue. It doesn't mean he's agreed to it, or was even aware of it beforehand.

It could also be that they are aware of a sax event he's scheduled to play in the future, and were planning on taking advantage of that scheduled event with the kickstarter thing. For instance, if I went and found a speech event/fund raiser dinner with Jimmy Carter at $1,000 a plate, and said he was hosting, and you could join in for the cheap price of $10k, it would still be true, even if I was trying to resell the plate for $10k. It might be misrepresenting it though if I said he was personally going to eat with you.
 
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7. Re: Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers May 30, 2012, 21:14 Kosumo
 
Blue always has great titles/headlines and this one it right up there with his best.

Keep up the great work Blue. Thumbsup
 
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6. Re: Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers May 30, 2012, 21:13 nin
 
Sepharo wrote on May 30, 2012, 20:45:
This is all pretty silly because Al Lowe is apparently in cahoots (or more specifically in contract) with these guys... Hell the top reward tier is lunch with Al Lowe.

Yeah, but we could make a KS with the top reward being lunch with Blue. It doesn't mean he's agreed to it, or was even aware of it beforehand.

 
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5. Re: Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers May 30, 2012, 21:06 Cutter
 
When people start throwing around phrases like "the fullest extent of the law" you know they're in the wrong.
 
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4. Re: Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers May 30, 2012, 20:57 Dev
 
Sepharo wrote on May 30, 2012, 20:45:
This is all pretty silly because Al Lowe is apparently in cahoots (or more specifically in contract) with these guys... Hell the top reward tier is lunch with Al Lowe.
Well they do say that it "misrepresents Lowe's participation"

If they have written permission to use the stuff as they claim, than replay games doesn't have a case. If they do NOT have written permission, than they just killed their case by claiming they do.
 
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3. Re: Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers May 30, 2012, 20:55 Mr. Tact
 
It would certainly appear that someone is confused or lying. That or they just like giving money to their lawyers...  
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2. Re: Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers May 30, 2012, 20:45 Sepharo
 
This is all pretty silly because Al Lowe is apparently in cahoots (or more specifically in contract) with these guys... Hell the top reward tier is lunch with Al Lowe.  
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1. Re: Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lawyers May 30, 2012, 20:25 theyarecomingforyou
 
It's deliberately misleading. It's one thing to say you're inspired by a particular person or game - it's another entirely to include their bio on your page and imply that the game is sanctioned by them. It seems perfect grounds for a lawsuit, as much as I hate how prevalent litigation has become.  
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