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DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced

The Bethesda Blog announces the DOOM 3 BFG Edition, a bundle of DOOM games for release this year on PCs and consoles. This trailer shows off the project, and here's what they say: "DOOM 3 BFG Edition is the ultimate collection of groundbreaking games that defined the first person shooter. It includes DOOM, DOOM 2, DOOM 3, and DOOM 3: Resurrection of Evil, as well as the ‘Lost Mission.’ All DOOM 3 content has been re-mastered for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 in stunning 3D for an even more terrifying FPS experience." Nowhere is a Windows edition mentioned, but there is a PC-DVD version among the packages shown at the end.

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70. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 31, 2012, 01:35 Jerykk
 
Quake 5 please. Multiplayer-only, PC-exclusive. Thanks.  
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69. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 23:26 Beamer
 
theyarecomingforyou wrote on May 30, 2012, 19:47:
BTW, this isn't some revisionist stance. I criticised the graphics from when they were first shown, after I played the leaked alpha and when I played the final game. Everybody else was raving about it but I didn't like the look from the start. Meanwhile I was excited by HL2 but disappointed by the leaked alpha... the final game more than made up for it though.

It's fun for me to read my posts from the time. Despite being an open HL fanboy my interest in HL2 was declining due to the delay, and I started getting doubtful, and at the same time my interest in Doom 3 was rising and I was pretty optomistic (though I mocked Quake 4 quite a bit.)
Then Doom 3 hit and my quote was "well, that certainly blew." At one point I make fun of it for its community dying in a month and point out that HL2 may do poorly but it'll get "at least twice that." And here we are, 7 or 8 years later, and 2 of the Orange Box games are still among the most played on the internet...
 
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68. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 21:18 Sepharo
 
Fantaz wrote on May 30, 2012, 20:19:
Dubstep definitely makes trailers like these betters...

They should add some right?
 
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67. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 20:48 Prez
 
While clearly lacking the magic the original Doom had, I always thought that Doom 3 was and still is judged a bit too harshly by the older crowd that played the original. Despite the cheap monster closets and the ridiculousness of not being able to use a flashlight and gun at the same time (easily remedied by the duct tape mod), most everything else ranges from solid to pretty great imo. I especially dig the modernized renderings of the hellspawn I fell in love with in all their pixelized glory in Doom. They look spot on to me.

Overall, while a distinctly different feel from the legendary original was obvious, personally I thought Doom 3 did the "Doom" name justice.
 
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66. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 20:19 Fantaz
 
Dubstep definitely makes trailers like these betters...  
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65. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 19:47 theyarecomingforyou
 
theglaze wrote on May 30, 2012, 17:02:
If any of you hating on Dooom 3 didn't fall into it's atmosphere, then clearly you weren't able to let yourself "go" and experience it first person...that's the whole point of the FPS genre. Maybe your senses have been dumbed down with egotistical "this isn't scary it's dumb" machismo.
Nonsense. It had very dated gameplay that was too reliant upon scripting and scare moments, with a narrative that was simply appalling. It was like it was made in a time warp completely oblivious to the advancements made by other games (RAGE is actually very similar in that regard). The character models looked terrible because of the waxy skin and the low-level lighting wasn't scary - it was annoying. It was over hyped.

theglaze wrote on May 30, 2012, 17:02:
As for the HL2, comparing either titles together is pointless because of the gameplay differences. Valve did an amazing job at making you feel alone in war torn world, sometimes going minutes without seeing another living thing. Doom 3 was relentless and stressful, monsters were behind every corner and even the predictable segments still brought buckets of anxiety.
You can still compare how much you liked and enjoyed each game. Doom 3 was a disappointment to me, whereas HL2 was excellent (and included Counter-Strike: Source) - I've replayed HL2 several times, whereas I never completed Doom 3 on either of my playthroughs. The expansion was considerably better but not great.

BTW, this isn't some revisionist stance. I criticised the graphics from when they were first shown, after I played the leaked alpha and when I played the final game. Everybody else was raving about it but I didn't like the look from the start. Meanwhile I was excited by HL2 but disappointed by the leaked alpha... the final game more than made up for it though.
 
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64. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 19:02 Rea1One
 
Finally proper widescreen & higher resolution version for PC.

Day one muthaflippin purchase!
 
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63. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 18:35 Beamer
 
deqer wrote on May 30, 2012, 18:34:
Beamer wrote on May 30, 2012, 17:58:
Yeah, and as I keep saying to anyone claiming that video games were so much better back then, old game design sucks and we've moved on.
You're wasting your breathe, in addition to sounding like a moron.

Doom 1/2 were the best for many specific reasons that you've yet to realize.

Also, games in general back then were indeed better than today's mainstream crap.

Haha, "you've yet to realize." Ok, Morpheus.

They "were" the best, true. Well, Doom 2 was actually a bit of a disappointment as it was an expansion more than a sequel, but they're very dated now. Still cool: atmosphere and fighting monsters. No longer cool: virtually everything else.
 
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62. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 18:34 deqer
 
Beamer wrote on May 30, 2012, 17:58:
Yeah, and as I keep saying to anyone claiming that video games were so much better back then, old game design sucks and we've moved on.
You're wasting your breathe, in addition to sounding like a moron.

Doom 1/2 were the best for many specific reasons that you've yet to realize.

Also, games in general back then were indeed better than today's mainstream crap.
 
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61. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 18:27 Ventura
 
theglaze wrote on May 30, 2012, 12:55:
I think Doom 3 makes my top 3 best FPS's ever.

That's funny, I think it makes my top 3 worst FPS's ever.

I bought it on release day, went out of my way to get it, and what a fucking joke. It's the last id game I ever bought, and with good reason. Like I think someone else has said in here, oh how the mighty have fallen.
 
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60. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 18:13 Beamer
 
Kobalt wrote on May 30, 2012, 18:10:

Then again I used to say they also make good engines and should focus on that in the old doom 3 threads back in the day(and was declared a troll for implying doom 3 might not be good).

It's fun to look at what people said in the past and what they may have been right about:

Kobalt wrote on May 27, 2004, 17:25:
-I think consoles will be the one to ride into the sunstet. There simply won't be a need for them.

Yeah there wont be a need for them when pc developers end their release now patch so it's playble later mentality, and when theres standardization. Microsoft is starting this with trying to make a standard game controller but it wont be enough. You know how many people that have pcs and have been turned off of pc gaming because they see a game with xbox like graphics and try and play it on their $1500ish dell and it runs like shit? Alot, a whole lot. Unless theres a standard speed increase or something every few years like consoles, not many will give up their consoles that they know every game they will be able to play.


Not to mention how much comps crash for the average user due to inexperience, think that many people want to play buggy ass games on buggy ass computers?
-10 years from now the consoles will be a thing of the past, and PCs will still be dominant.

Uhh "still" dominant? They have never been dominant in the first place.


Heh, the italicized quotes [edit - now hyphenized] you're responding to is me, which made this cherry-picked quote very amusing when I saw that.
 
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59. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 18:10 Beamer
 
SirKnight wrote on May 30, 2012, 18:04:
Personally I find the game design, every bit of it, of old games to be far superior to modern stuff. This is why I still play the old games so much and much more than new stuff.

Game design did move on, to something much worse. Gotta hold the hand of the kiddies I guess.

Or, arguably, only someone that's got the maturity and mentality of a middle schooler would use the term "kiddies," which makes the term very ironic.
 
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58. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 18:10 Kobalt
 
theglaze wrote on May 30, 2012, 17:02:

If any of you hating on Dooom 3 didn't fall into it's atmosphere, then clearly you weren't able to let yourself "go" and experience it first person...that's the whole point of the FPS genre. Maybe your senses have been dumbed down with egotistical "this isn't scary it's dumb" machismo.

O wow, "dumbed down" has truly become the hitler of the gaming world. Just throw it out there when someone disagrees with you even if you have no concept what it means.

Doom 3 was a sad attempt at id trying to show the world they can do something besides multiplayer. They tried again with rage and failed even harder. They just need to swallow their pride and make a competitive online shooter again, might get their old fans back.

Then again I used to say they also make good engines and should focus on that in the old doom 3 threads back in the day(and was declared a troll for implying doom 3 might not be good). I question that now. Id has always made pretty games but the engine themselves were bad compared to the unreal engines. Seems even more so now, even the crysis engine is a competitor.
 
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57. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 18:04 SirKnight
 
Personally I find the game design, every bit of it, of old games to be far superior to modern stuff. This is why I still play the old games so much and much more than new stuff.

Game design did move on, to something much worse. Gotta hold the hand of the kiddies I guess.
 
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56. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 17:58 Beamer
 
SirKnight wrote on May 30, 2012, 17:50:
Did anyone ever complain about monster closets in Doom 1 and 2? They were full of those things.

Yeah, and as I keep saying to anyone claiming that video games were so much better back then, old game design sucks and we've moved on.

Doom 3 not only didn't move on but it didn't commit, so you had monster closets in wholly linear levels.
 
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55. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 17:50 SirKnight
 
Did anyone ever complain about monster closets in Doom 1 and 2? They were full of those things.  
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54. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 17:48 Cutter
 
Meh, I've pretty much given up on id at this point.
 
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53. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 17:47 SirKnight
 
This reminds me that I never got around to finishing the Doom 3 expansion. Kind of weird because I liked it, especially since they brought back the double barrel shotgun. I played through Doom 3 almost twice.

Even though it never really felt like a true doom game I still liked it quite a bit for what it was. If I think I'm playing a game NOT called Doom then it's all good.

The old doom level remakes for Doom 3 never felt quite right to me.
 
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52. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 17:32 Beamer
 
theglaze wrote on May 30, 2012, 17:02:
ItBurn wrote on May 30, 2012, 15:02:
...with amazing atmosphere...but don't tell me it was a bad game or "behind the times".

Yup.

If any of you hating on Dooom 3 didn't fall into it's atmosphere, then clearly you weren't able to let yourself "go" and experience it first person...that's the whole point of the FPS genre. Maybe your senses have been dumbed down with egotistical "this isn't scary it's dumb" machismo. Example: If upon first arriving at Delta Labs you weren't creep'ed out, then you missed the whole point of the game.

I have no clue how you can equate someone that doesn't "let themselves 'go'" with someone being "too dumbed down."

Maybe people that could get swept up in this empty atmosphere have their senses so dumbed down they could get lost in a cardboard box?

Game was a vapid, empty shell of monster closets and repetitive rooms that had to be cleared, then had a closet open and had to be cleared again, then had items picked up which opened more closets to be cleared again, all of which was done while flipping back and forth between being able to see and being able to kill.
 
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51. Re: DOOM 3 BFG Edition Announced May 30, 2012, 17:21 Marvin T. Martian
 
Beamer wrote on May 30, 2012, 12:44:
Gib007 wrote on May 30, 2012, 12:21:
I'd happily play Doom 3 entirely but only if indeed it works properly in 3D with NVIDIA 3D Vision.

Apparently Carmack has hobbled together a head mounted display and added code for it to D3.

Well, after his RAGE fiasco(PC), he had to do something to get some rep back. Doom with 2012 graphics might be nice if it actually comes out for the PC.
 
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