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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 27, 2012, 10:11 |
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The 38 Studios deal was done by This Guy. Pretty sure he's a republican.
Small government republicans begging for hand-outs for shitty business-plans? What else is new? Say one thing, do another, every time. |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 26, 2012, 14:25 |
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wtf_man wrote on May 24, 2012, 20:33:
Ranger55 wrote on May 24, 2012, 20:19: Looked like a single-player WoW knock-off and played like the crappy console to PC port that it was. Reminded me too much of Daggerfall to even consider buying it. Wait... How can A single player WoW clone that suffers from consolitus remind you of Daggerfall??!!? Thanks for catching that. I meant Daggerdale, the D&D disaster. |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 26, 2012, 10:30 |
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shinchan0s wrote on May 26, 2012, 03:12:
RollinThundr wrote on May 26, 2012, 02:03:
Kosumo wrote on May 25, 2012, 20:05: I'll just put a LOL@fallofamericanempire in here - RollinThundr gonna leave it if Obama gets back in, to goto Canada? Thundr, you do know that all of us in the Commonwealth all each put a five dollar note in the post and send it to our Queen each week. (The Queen face is on stamps for a reason!)
It's what we do, so she can build an army and take back America.
Just joking, it's good for morale, America is shit and the Commonwealth don't want it.
Apparently if you don't use sarcasm tags on BN people get confused. At anyrate it's still amazing to me how people can be so up in arms about regular American citizen's tax rates, yet they're fine with government spending like the world is going to end tomorrow.
Gotta love that entitlement mentality. I think you'd find that most people are for reduced spending. The difference is that you have one side that wants to solve the problem by working things out long term and the other side that thinks we should tear everything down. The Founding Fathers developed a government that was designed to act slow and deliberately, but you got atleast 30% of the population that believes the country should be run like a business. Their representatives also don't feel like negotiating. That's the problem. The founding fathers also advised against Government controlling everything and everyone. Fact of the matter is, Gov is too big as it is, it's bloated with too many agencies and inefficient at anything.
Running it like at business, or at the very least cutting all the waste would actually not be a bad idea. |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 26, 2012, 03:12 |
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RollinThundr wrote on May 26, 2012, 02:03:
Kosumo wrote on May 25, 2012, 20:05: I'll just put a LOL@fallofamericanempire in here - RollinThundr gonna leave it if Obama gets back in, to goto Canada? Thundr, you do know that all of us in the Commonwealth all each put a five dollar note in the post and send it to our Queen each week. (The Queen face is on stamps for a reason!)
It's what we do, so she can build an army and take back America.
Just joking, it's good for morale, America is shit and the Commonwealth don't want it.
Apparently if you don't use sarcasm tags on BN people get confused. At anyrate it's still amazing to me how people can be so up in arms about regular American citizen's tax rates, yet they're fine with government spending like the world is going to end tomorrow.
Gotta love that entitlement mentality. I think you'd find that most people are for reduced spending. The difference is that you have one side that wants to solve the problem by working things out long term and the other side that thinks we should tear everything down. The Founding Fathers developed a government that was designed to act slow and deliberately, but you got atleast 30% of the population that believes the country should be run like a business. Their representatives also don't feel like negotiating. That's the problem. |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 26, 2012, 02:03 |
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Kosumo wrote on May 25, 2012, 20:05: I'll just put a LOL@fallofamericanempire in here - RollinThundr gonna leave it if Obama gets back in, to goto Canada? Thundr, you do know that all of us in the Commonwealth all each put a five dollar note in the post and send it to our Queen each week. (The Queen face is on stamps for a reason!)
It's what we do, so she can build an army and take back America.
Just joking, it's good for morale, America is shit and the Commonwealth don't want it. Apparently if you don't use sarcasm tags on BN people get confused. At anyrate it's still amazing to me how people can be so up in arms about regular American citizen's tax rates, yet they're fine with government spending like the world is going to end tomorrow.
Gotta love that entitlement mentality. |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 20:05 |
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I'll just put a LOL@fallofamericanempire in here - RollinThundr gonna leave it if Obama gets back in, to goto Canada? Thundr, you do know that all of us in the Commonwealth all each put a five dollar note in the post and send it to our Queen each week. (The Queen face is on stamps for a reason!)
It's what we do, so she can build an army and take back America.
Just joking, it's good for morale, America is shit and the Commonwealth don't want it. |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 15:48 |
RollinThundr |
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Bet wrote on May 25, 2012, 15:08:
Verno wrote on May 25, 2012, 10:21: This thread at SA has a ton of damning info about the 38 Studios demise and what a scumbag Curt turned out to be. I thought he was a genuine enthusiast but apparently he used some of that taxpayer money to pay off a personal credit line of his own and there's some other interesting allegations. It's a nice collection of info spread out from when the scandal started to now. Funny how people at SA can stay on topic and blame the person responsible (unlike Thundr or Mashiki)ElwoodCuse wrote: by the way, Curt Schilling is also a loudmouth hypocritical right-wing shithead who is opposed to taxes and the government spending money on anything And yet look at what he's wrought.
Please, people. Think harder about who you should really be angry at. Psst, it's not the guy at the 'top'. If you think spending 5 trillion with nothing to show for it in 3 and a half years is a good thing, then I don't know what to tell you. I do know one thing, if it was a republican you people would be calling for impeachment among other things. |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 15:08 |
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Verno wrote on May 25, 2012, 10:21: This thread at SA has a ton of damning info about the 38 Studios demise and what a scumbag Curt turned out to be. I thought he was a genuine enthusiast but apparently he used some of that taxpayer money to pay off a personal credit line of his own and there's some other interesting allegations. It's a nice collection of info spread out from when the scandal started to now. Funny how people at SA can stay on topic and blame the person responsible (unlike Thundr or Mashiki)ElwoodCuse wrote: by the way, Curt Schilling is also a loudmouth hypocritical right-wing shithead who is opposed to taxes and the government spending money on anything And yet look at what he's wrought.
Please, people. Think harder about who you should really be angry at. Psst, it's not the guy at the 'top'. |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 13:41 |
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Sepharo wrote on May 25, 2012, 00:51: So this part is a little vague but I can at least determine that you don't want the government giving people money if they earned it because of senseless reason. What would you say the inane reasons are? Who determines what is inane?
I just picked a random reason... I like when government gives people money to build and maintain roads.
I'm sure you don't think that's senseless, sorry... What are the inane reasons? It's hard to argue with an *x*. It wasn't vague at all. The problem is you're believing that all government is essential, your first choice for *x* was roads instead of say foodcare programs, or some such. There's a fundamental difference between the two, not only is there a difference between the two, but private groups like churches, synagogues, and the like along with private business do a much better job at doing them.
These are called donation based services. And funny enough they do work very well. Roads though, different story different subset.
By the way, anyone thinking that Obama has been great for sunshine and dasies. You're now looking at a 51.7% DC and 36.2 CA youth unemployment rate this summer that's getting into european territory. |
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-- "For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution; and it is always wrong." --H.L. Mencken |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 12:16 |
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Oh and they paid RA Salvatore $5mil for his "contributions". LOL. Sorry to interrupt the Obamarama |
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Playing: Super Mario 3D Land, Tales of Graces F, Fire Emblem 3DS Watching: Hannibal, Community, Life |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 10:47 |
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RollinThundr wrote on May 25, 2012, 10:24: That none of you left leaning folks care at all about how much money is being spent is flat out troubling. Someone has to eventually pay for it. Dear Mr. Thundr,
My final contribution to this "conversation" is to quote Foster's Law: The only people who find what they are looking for in life are the fault finders.
Rather than sit and spew numbers and find fault with everything, I suggest you sit back and enjoy life a little. You might start by visiting a gaming news sight, read about and then perhaps discuss games.
If you cannot enjoy the gaming sight, perhaps you could take all the faults you find in society and get off your butt and do something about it. Action > words.
Wishing you a happy, fun-filled day,
GayBlade |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 10:24 |
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Parallax Abstraction wrote on May 25, 2012, 09:58:
GayBlade wrote on May 25, 2012, 09:40:
RollinThundr wrote on May 25, 2012, 09:31:
Bhruic wrote on May 25, 2012, 08:30:
RollinThundr wrote on May 25, 2012, 00:38: Enjoy your European socialistic utopia boys, if Oblamer gets reelected I'm moving to Canada. Don't threaten Canada like that Seriously. People like him can keep their ignorance south of the border. We don't need or want it. It's ignorant not to want to be spent into oblivion? The day Pres. Obama took office the public debt was $6.4 trillion. Today it is $11 trillion.
Spending by the Federal Government increased from $2.9 trillion in the last year of the Bush administration to over $3.5 trillion in the first year of the Obama Administration, and has since increased further to $3.8 trillion a year. This is despite Pres. Obama ending the US manned Space Program, his refusal to purchase the F22 Fighter, cuts to Medicare to pay for Obamacare,2 consecutive years with no Social Security cost of living increase,and cuts to defense and law enforcement.
Under Pres. Obama we have had increases in spending on welfare with the workfare requirements repealed. Prior to the Obama Administration able bodied adults could only get welfare if they either worked 22 hours a week or were enrolled in job training. Welfare used to be for the sick, the infirm elderly, and children, but Pres. Obama has made it possible for able bodied adults to get welfare while making no effort to find any work.
Spending has increased from $2.9 trillion to $3.8 trillion a year under Pres. Obama in the past 3 years - an increase of over 30%.
In 2006, the last year we had a Republican Congress & President, the federal deficit was less than $200 billion and unemployment was 4.5%.
We've lost millions of jobs since Barack Obama went to Washington as a Senator in January 2007 despite trillion dollar deficits.
Taxes aren't the issue to recovery. This buffoon's out of control spending is. You cannot spend your way out of a recession.
That none of you left leaning folks care at all about how much money is being spent is flat out troubling. Someone has to eventually pay for it. |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 10:21 |
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| This thread at SA has a ton of damning info about the 38 Studios demise and what a scumbag Curt turned out to be. I thought he was a genuine enthusiast but apparently he used some of that taxpayer money to pay off a personal credit line of his own and there's some other interesting allegations. It's a nice collection of info spread out from when the scandal started to now. |
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Playing: Super Mario 3D Land, Tales of Graces F, Fire Emblem 3DS Watching: Hannibal, Community, Life |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 10:17 |
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| Oh, and to clarify -- I meant to imply the "bigger picture" in this case or any other might have nothing to do with the particular issue being discussed. Rightly or wrongly... |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 10:16 |
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RollinThundr wrote on May 25, 2012, 09:31: Believe me Bhruic, small business owners are often lumped into it. And they create the jobs, not government like some delusional libs seem to think.
Cutter talking about Warren Buffet.. The same Buffet who's companies owed and possibly still do billions in back taxes. Yea that Buffet. It's already been debunked about his secretary paying more than him in the first place.
Fix the tax code loopholes, make everyone pay a flat rate. end of problem! Oh and stop spending like it's going out of style. If anyone has taken note not one liberal in this thread will talk about spending, just taxes and paving roads. Gee wonder why?
Then you have Beamer, The pie is finite! No you retard, anyone can be successful, work and earn it, stop looking for your handout on others backs.
Enjoy your European socialistic utopia boys, if Oblamer gets reelected I'm moving to Canada. I should believe you, rather than the evidence that shows you're wrong? That seems pretty silly. There are very, very few small business owners in the 1%, and the ones that are got their money from elsewhere.
I also note you completely overlooked the part about cap gains taxes, and skipped straight to the "flat rate" system, that would cause even more problems.
What I don't understand about people with similar viewpoints, is why you feel such a need to defend the uber-rich? They don't give a damn about you, manipulate the system to their benefit and your detriment, and you are still here defending them. Is it the misguided American notion that somehow you're going to magically join the 1% "one of these days"? That all of you are just millionaires-in-waiting? Or do you secretly pine for the days of a rich aristocracy ruling over the ignorant peasants?
Oh, and stay out of Canada please. You wouldn't like it up here anyway, we're more socialist than the US is. |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 10:08 |
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avianflu wrote on May 25, 2012, 09:55: Mr Tact you may be thinking too highly of those who govern, especially those who govern at the state and town level. For the most part these folks are either dull-headed, or mercenary, or both.
Think highly of them? Ah, no. Actually my opinion is that 99% of all politicians are crooks -- that number is probably an exaggeration but it conveys my feelings on the subject. However, the constant drone from both the left and right -- especially in the last 5-10 years has driven me into apathy.
Specifically in the case of the loan to .38 Studios, in hindsight and on the surface it seems insane. However, what would people's opinions be if the game had done so well the company paid off the loan early? Sure maybe the likelihood of that was small -- I'm just illustrating a point. This decision was not made in a vacuum and I doubt few if any of the people throwing around opinions here know the whole story -- I certainly don't.
This comment was edited on May 25, 2012, 10:13. |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 09:58 |
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GayBlade wrote on May 25, 2012, 09:40:
RollinThundr wrote on May 25, 2012, 09:31:
Bhruic wrote on May 25, 2012, 08:30:
RollinThundr wrote on May 25, 2012, 00:38: Enjoy your European socialistic utopia boys, if Oblamer gets reelected I'm moving to Canada. Don't threaten Canada like that Seriously. People like him can keep their ignorance south of the border. We don't need or want it. |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 09:55 |
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"but in politics there is almost always a "bigger picture" situation..."
By "bigger picture situation" you mean money grabs, pointless power-plays and exchanges of influence.
Mr Tact you may be thinking too highly of those who govern, especially those who govern at the state and town level. For the most part these folks are either dull-headed, or mercenary, or both.
As a born and bred Rhode Islander I can say for sure that the state government was mindless in this instance. Everyone involved in the "38 studios" decision is gone from office, which is convenient and typical.
There's no "more important bigger picture" that is happening behind the scenes here Mr Tact. But if that makes you feel good thinking like that, well that's cool! |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 09:40 |
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RollinThundr wrote on May 25, 2012, 09:31:
Bhruic wrote on May 25, 2012, 08:30:
RollinThundr wrote on May 25, 2012, 00:38: Enjoy your European socialistic utopia boys, if Oblamer gets reelected I'm moving to Canada. Don't threaten Canada like that |
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Re: 38 Studios Closed? |
May 25, 2012, 09:35 |
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Good luck to the laid off workers.
As to the political nonsense, whenever I read/hear that stuff it always reminds of when they would spend 2 or 3 minutes at the end of 60 Minutes reading letters they received about a story they did in the previous show. First, they would read a letter saying how 60 Minutes was obviously slanting the story in a particular way. Next, they would read a letter saying how 60 Minutes was obviously slanting the story in the exact opposite way the first letter indicated. Absolutely hilarious.
If you are interested sounding reasonable in a political argument I suggest two things.
1) Avoid statistics as much as possible. Mark Twain was right. The instant I see any statistic in a political context my first thought is, "Ok, how is this statistic distorting the issue?"
2) Take a few moments and realize neither you or the other person are likely to really know what is going on. Oh sure, you may have some basic understanding -- but in politics there is almost always a "bigger picture" situation... |
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