Mr. Tact wrote on May 22, 2012, 09:23:Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 08:58:He isn't the only one who doesn't understand what you are saying. Are complaining that you can't create a level 30 Wizard (or whatever) after you have completed normal difficulty with your Witch Doctor?
I'm the foreign guy here but nowhere in my previous comment did I show any indication that I didn't understand that nightmare for a lvl 1 is too hard. In fact, if I didn't understand that concept my entire previous comment wouldn't make sense! It's exactly tha understanding why I'm pissed. Like I said, I'd wanna play this easy drag of a campaign with one hero if I must... if I had the ability to roll a new hero and dive into a higher (not impossible) difficulty.
Honestly, what is it YOU don't understand about my point? That's a better question.
Mr. Tact wrote on May 22, 2012, 09:37:Fibrocyte wrote on May 22, 2012, 09:13:So there was no hacking and this is all just a storm of idiots? Could be. I wouldn't bet money on it either way.
Blizzard already responded stating that all their research shows the compromised accounts were accessed using the proper username and password.
Hopefully this has already been covered in this mess of a thread.
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 08:27:
And that's, what? A good thing, Bhruic? It's a good thing the game has basically one difficulty when you think about it?
Jesus, I truly hope nobody is that crazy to support Blizzard's ridiculous decision to do it like this. Normal difficulty is one perfectly fit for my never-gaming wife (a fact, for she enjoys it, being the noob she is. She only died once with her WD). For an experienced gamer like myself and probably all of us here.. well, we can do it with our eyes closed.
Fibrocyte wrote on May 22, 2012, 09:13:So there was no hacking and this is all just a storm of idiots? Could be. I wouldn't bet money on it either way.
Blizzard already responded stating that all their research shows the compromised accounts were accessed using the proper username and password.
Hopefully this has already been covered in this mess of a thread.
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 08:58:He isn't the only one who doesn't understand what you are saying. Are complaining that you can't create a level 30 Wizard (or whatever) after you have completed normal difficulty with your Witch Doctor?
I'm the foreign guy here but nowhere in my previous comment did I show any indication that I didn't understand that nightmare for a lvl 1 is too hard. In fact, if I didn't understand that concept my entire previous comment wouldn't make sense! It's exactly tha understanding why I'm pissed. Like I said, I'd wanna play this easy drag of a campaign with one hero if I must... if I had the ability to roll a new hero and dive into a higher (not impossible) difficulty.
Honestly, what is it YOU don't understand about my point? That's a better question.
ColoradoHoudini wrote on May 22, 2012, 00:44:
The guys I speak to from my guild (WoW/SWTOR/GW2) and the 3 coworkers I know of that were all jazzed up for D3 all have the same sentiment.. it's just "okay". They are playing it to play something, and really aren't that into it. In fact, the young kid I work with, who was ALL ABOUT D3 talk for the last few months, said he's bored with it already.
MattyC wrote on May 22, 2012, 08:50:Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 08:27:Bhruic wrote on May 22, 2012, 06:33:Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:24:
Wait what was off with his wording? You're saying the same thing. You have to complete normal mode with every single character you want to play a more difficult mode with!
The first guy didn't say you have to complete Normal mode with every class before higher difficulties are unlocked, although it seems you think that's what he said.
Anyway.. It's still fucking ridiculous. Once I finished normal mode with my mage, I wanna play nightmare with my Demon Hunter, ffs. You guys absolutely certain this isn't the case? Rage is boiling up, you see..
Uh, how is that any different than the way it worked in D2? Every new char you made had to play through Normal->Nightmare->Hell. You couldn't just skip to the end because you'd got a different character to Hell difficulty.
And that's, what? A good thing, Bhruic? It's a good thing the game has basically one difficulty when you think about it?
Normal is way too easy. Way. So easy that I'm often just bored out of my ass.
Besides, I hardly played D1 and D2. And still, what makes it a good thing D2 was exactly like you described? Also, there's people out there who just wanna have a nice, single playthrough with one or more characters, but not this freaking easy. I've had enough of my mage once I'm done with the campaign. I was looking forward for a more difficult mode with a new hero. Fuck!
Jesus, I truly hope nobody is that crazy to support Blizzard's ridiculous decision to do it like this. Normal difficulty is one perfectly fit for my never-gaming wife (a fact, for she enjoys it, being the noob she is. She only died once with her WD). For an experienced gamer like myself and probably all of us here.. well, we can do it with our eyes closed.
Ridiculous.
A new level 1 would not be able to do anything in nightmare. I am not sure what you don't understand about that. The story ends when you beat normal, but not the game. That is really where the game begins. Sorry you missed out on the previous Diablo titles, but that is how the games work.
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 08:27:Bhruic wrote on May 22, 2012, 06:33:Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:24:
Wait what was off with his wording? You're saying the same thing. You have to complete normal mode with every single character you want to play a more difficult mode with!
The first guy didn't say you have to complete Normal mode with every class before higher difficulties are unlocked, although it seems you think that's what he said.
Anyway.. It's still fucking ridiculous. Once I finished normal mode with my mage, I wanna play nightmare with my Demon Hunter, ffs. You guys absolutely certain this isn't the case? Rage is boiling up, you see..
Uh, how is that any different than the way it worked in D2? Every new char you made had to play through Normal->Nightmare->Hell. You couldn't just skip to the end because you'd got a different character to Hell difficulty.
And that's, what? A good thing, Bhruic? It's a good thing the game has basically one difficulty when you think about it?
Normal is way too easy. Way. So easy that I'm often just bored out of my ass.
Besides, I hardly played D1 and D2. And still, what makes it a good thing D2 was exactly like you described? Also, there's people out there who just wanna have a nice, single playthrough with one or more characters, but not this freaking easy. I've had enough of my mage once I'm done with the campaign. I was looking forward for a more difficult mode with a new hero. Fuck!
Jesus, I truly hope nobody is that crazy to support Blizzard's ridiculous decision to do it like this. Normal difficulty is one perfectly fit for my never-gaming wife (a fact, for she enjoys it, being the noob she is. She only died once with her WD). For an experienced gamer like myself and probably all of us here.. well, we can do it with our eyes closed.
Ridiculous.
Bhruic wrote on May 22, 2012, 06:33:Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:24:
Wait what was off with his wording? You're saying the same thing. You have to complete normal mode with every single character you want to play a more difficult mode with!
The first guy didn't say you have to complete Normal mode with every class before higher difficulties are unlocked, although it seems you think that's what he said.
Anyway.. It's still fucking ridiculous. Once I finished normal mode with my mage, I wanna play nightmare with my Demon Hunter, ffs. You guys absolutely certain this isn't the case? Rage is boiling up, you see..
Uh, how is that any different than the way it worked in D2? Every new char you made had to play through Normal->Nightmare->Hell. You couldn't just skip to the end because you'd got a different character to Hell difficulty.
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:24:
Wait what was off with his wording? You're saying the same thing. You have to complete normal mode with every single character you want to play a more difficult mode with!
The first guy didn't say you have to complete Normal mode with every class before higher difficulties are unlocked, although it seems you think that's what he said.
Anyway.. It's still fucking ridiculous. Once I finished normal mode with my mage, I wanna play nightmare with my Demon Hunter, ffs. You guys absolutely certain this isn't the case? Rage is boiling up, you see..
beigemore wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:58:entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:15:
That is absolutely my No. 1 complaint about the game as well. In order to play on any of the fun difficulty levels you have to complete the entire game on normal (easy) once for EVERY character class. I was expecting all the online hassles, but I never thought they could screw up the difficulty so badly. It just about single-handedly ruins the game, it's not any fun this way.
It sounds like you don't know how those other modes work. They aren't just slightly harder game modes. The enemies on act 1 in nightmare aren't level 1 with a few extra hit points. The enemies you first run across in nightmare are somewhere around level 30 or 40. If you make a new character, it starts at level 1. If that character were to join a nightmare game, do you think it could stand up to those level 30 enemies?
I understand what you are wanting, but that simply isn't how the game works.
entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:15:
That is absolutely my No. 1 complaint about the game as well. In order to play on any of the fun difficulty levels you have to complete the entire game on normal (easy) once for EVERY character class. I was expecting all the online hassles, but I never thought they could screw up the difficulty so badly. It just about single-handedly ruins the game, it's not any fun this way.
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:24:entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:13:eunichron wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:47:Dev wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:17:entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:15:Wait. WTF!? Easy on EVERY CHARACTER class? I thought I'd only need to play it once ever. How freaking boring is that. D2 wasn't that way I don't think.
That is absolutely my No. 1 complaint about the game as well. In order to play on any of the fun difficulty levels you have to complete the entire game on normal (easy) once for EVERY character class. I was expecting all the online hassles, but I never thought they could screw up the difficulty so badly. It just about single-handedly ruins the game, it's not any fun this way.
I think his wording was a bit off... you don't have to complete normal with every class to play Nightmare/Hell/Inferno at all, you only have to complete it for that specific character. There is a linear progression, i.e. to play Hell you have to defeat Nightmare, to play Inferno you have to defeat Hell and be level 60 (max level). Diablo 2 was that way as well, and the reasoning is that the health and damage of the mobs are scaled up, as are the item drops (essentially the first mob in Normal is level 1, the first mob in Nightmare would be level 30). However, unlike Diablo 2, in Diablo 3 once you beat Normal you don't have to do the quests or acts in order on subsequent difficulties. For example I was just in a coop Nightmare game with a friend, we were on Act III, we were level 46-ish. Our third friend jumped in with his level 36 Witch Doctor who had only completed Act I Nightmare, but he was able to join us when we were half way through Act III. It also seems that our other friend got an experience boost as he caught up to us in levels fairly quickly. We finished all of Act III and he was level 43 or 44 while we were both 49.
I believe only Diablo 1 allowed you to choose a difficulty starting from level 1, but if I remember correctly you still had to complete the game on Normal with any character before you could play the harder difficulties.
Wait what was off with his wording? You're saying the same thing. You have to complete normal mode with every single character you want to play a more difficult mode with!
The first guy didn't say you have to complete Normal mode with every class before higher difficulties are unlocked, although it seems you think that's what he said.
Anyway.. It's still fucking ridiculous. Once I finished normal mode with my mage, I wanna play nightmare with my Demon Hunter, ffs. You guys absolutely certain this isn't the case? Rage is boiling up, you see..
entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:13:eunichron wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:47:Dev wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:17:entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:15:Wait. WTF!? Easy on EVERY CHARACTER class? I thought I'd only need to play it once ever. How freaking boring is that. D2 wasn't that way I don't think.
That is absolutely my No. 1 complaint about the game as well. In order to play on any of the fun difficulty levels you have to complete the entire game on normal (easy) once for EVERY character class. I was expecting all the online hassles, but I never thought they could screw up the difficulty so badly. It just about single-handedly ruins the game, it's not any fun this way.
I think his wording was a bit off... you don't have to complete normal with every class to play Nightmare/Hell/Inferno at all, you only have to complete it for that specific character. There is a linear progression, i.e. to play Hell you have to defeat Nightmare, to play Inferno you have to defeat Hell and be level 60 (max level). Diablo 2 was that way as well, and the reasoning is that the health and damage of the mobs are scaled up, as are the item drops (essentially the first mob in Normal is level 1, the first mob in Nightmare would be level 30). However, unlike Diablo 2, in Diablo 3 once you beat Normal you don't have to do the quests or acts in order on subsequent difficulties. For example I was just in a coop Nightmare game with a friend, we were on Act III, we were level 46-ish. Our third friend jumped in with his level 36 Witch Doctor who had only completed Act I Nightmare, but he was able to join us when we were half way through Act III. It also seems that our other friend got an experience boost as he caught up to us in levels fairly quickly. We finished all of Act III and he was level 43 or 44 while we were both 49.
I believe only Diablo 1 allowed you to choose a difficulty starting from level 1, but if I remember correctly you still had to complete the game on Normal with any character before you could play the harder difficulties.
eunichron wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:47:Dev wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:17:entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:15:Wait. WTF!? Easy on EVERY CHARACTER class? I thought I'd only need to play it once ever. How freaking boring is that. D2 wasn't that way I don't think.
That is absolutely my No. 1 complaint about the game as well. In order to play on any of the fun difficulty levels you have to complete the entire game on normal (easy) once for EVERY character class. I was expecting all the online hassles, but I never thought they could screw up the difficulty so badly. It just about single-handedly ruins the game, it's not any fun this way.
I think his wording was a bit off... you don't have to complete normal with every class to play Nightmare/Hell/Inferno at all, you only have to complete it for that specific character. There is a linear progression, i.e. to play Hell you have to defeat Nightmare, to play Inferno you have to defeat Hell and be level 60 (max level). Diablo 2 was that way as well, and the reasoning is that the health and damage of the mobs are scaled up, as are the item drops (essentially the first mob in Normal is level 1, the first mob in Nightmare would be level 30). However, unlike Diablo 2, in Diablo 3 once you beat Normal you don't have to do the quests or acts in order on subsequent difficulties. For example I was just in a coop Nightmare game with a friend, we were on Act III, we were level 46-ish. Our third friend jumped in with his level 36 Witch Doctor who had only completed Act I Nightmare, but he was able to join us when we were half way through Act III. It also seems that our other friend got an experience boost as he caught up to us in levels fairly quickly. We finished all of Act III and he was level 43 or 44 while we were both 49.
I believe only Diablo 1 allowed you to choose a difficulty starting from level 1, but if I remember correctly you still had to complete the game on Normal with any character before you could play the harder difficulties.