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Diablo III Hacking?

A bunch of threads on the Diablo III forums from players who've experienced unauthorized access to their accounts suggest their may be a security issue with the action/RPG sequel or that the game's future support of real-money auctions has attracted more hacking attempts than one would consider normal. The threads in question are: Ummm...all of my gold and items are gone, Hacked. GG Online Only Single Player DRM, Hacked with an authenticator, and The hacker found (with screenshot). Thanks nin.

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196. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 09:52 Verno
 
That's never been an option in the Diablo series Quinn so no one was expecting it. You'll have to run Normal five times assuming you make one of every character. I don't really see it as a big deal either, you can blow through Normal in no time once you've run it before. I think letting people skip Normal and just buy gear off the AH for Nightmare+ skews too far into the skipping content category. Just my 2 cents.  
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195. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 09:50 Quinn
 
Mr. Tact wrote on May 22, 2012, 09:23:
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 08:58:
I'm the foreign guy here but nowhere in my previous comment did I show any indication that I didn't understand that nightmare for a lvl 1 is too hard. In fact, if I didn't understand that concept my entire previous comment wouldn't make sense! It's exactly tha understanding why I'm pissed. Like I said, I'd wanna play this easy drag of a campaign with one hero if I must... if I had the ability to roll a new hero and dive into a higher (not impossible) difficulty.

Honestly, what is it YOU don't understand about my point? That's a better question.
He isn't the only one who doesn't understand what you are saying. Are complaining that you can't create a level 30 Wizard (or whatever) after you have completed normal difficulty with your Witch Doctor?

My goodness...

Is it thinking out of the box by complaining that there isn't an option to play your FIRST PLAYTHROUGH WITH ANY CHARACTER on a higher difficulty than tard-easy "Normal" mode!?
 
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194. Re: General complaints, longish May 22, 2012, 09:44 Bhruic
 
Mr. Tact wrote on May 22, 2012, 09:37:
Fibrocyte wrote on May 22, 2012, 09:13:
Blizzard already responded stating that all their research shows the compromised accounts were accessed using the proper username and password.

Hopefully this has already been covered in this mess of a thread.
So there was no hacking and this is all just a storm of idiots? Could be. I wouldn't bet money on it either way.

No, all that statement from Blizzard means is that the hacking system isn't simply session hijacking. That doesn't mean whoever is hacking accounts hasn't found a way to obtain passwords through a security fault at Blizzard.
 
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193. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 09:42 Bhruic
 
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 08:27:
And that's, what? A good thing, Bhruic? It's a good thing the game has basically one difficulty when you think about it?

Well, it's a thing that should have expected based on previous knowledge of how Diablo games work. They did it that way in Diablo 1 (although they based it there on your character level, rather than game completion). They did it that way in Diablo 2. Thinking they wouldn't do it that way in Diablo 3 was pretty silly.

If it's a feature that you don't like, why would you buy the game knowing that's the way they've done it previously? It'd be like buying the latest CoD, and expecting that they have health kits and no regenerating health.

Jesus, I truly hope nobody is that crazy to support Blizzard's ridiculous decision to do it like this. Normal difficulty is one perfectly fit for my never-gaming wife (a fact, for she enjoys it, being the noob she is. She only died once with her WD). For an experienced gamer like myself and probably all of us here.. well, we can do it with our eyes closed.

I suspect plenty of people support this decision, because that's what they were looking for. From your "hardly played D1 and D2" comment, I can only assume that you were looking for something else. That's fine, but that means buying D3 was your mistake.
 
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192. Re: General complaints, longish May 22, 2012, 09:37 Mr. Tact
 
Fibrocyte wrote on May 22, 2012, 09:13:
Blizzard already responded stating that all their research shows the compromised accounts were accessed using the proper username and password.

Hopefully this has already been covered in this mess of a thread.
So there was no hacking and this is all just a storm of idiots? Could be. I wouldn't bet money on it either way.
 
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191. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 09:23 Mr. Tact
 
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 08:58:
I'm the foreign guy here but nowhere in my previous comment did I show any indication that I didn't understand that nightmare for a lvl 1 is too hard. In fact, if I didn't understand that concept my entire previous comment wouldn't make sense! It's exactly tha understanding why I'm pissed. Like I said, I'd wanna play this easy drag of a campaign with one hero if I must... if I had the ability to roll a new hero and dive into a higher (not impossible) difficulty.

Honestly, what is it YOU don't understand about my point? That's a better question.
He isn't the only one who doesn't understand what you are saying. Are complaining that you can't create a level 30 Wizard (or whatever) after you have completed normal difficulty with your Witch Doctor?
 
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190. Re: General complaints, longish May 22, 2012, 09:13 Fibrocyte
 
Blizzard already responded stating that all their research shows the compromised accounts were accessed using the proper username and password.

Hopefully this has already been covered in this mess of a thread.
 
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189. Re: General complaints, longish May 22, 2012, 08:59 Verno
 
ColoradoHoudini wrote on May 22, 2012, 00:44:
The guys I speak to from my guild (WoW/SWTOR/GW2) and the 3 coworkers I know of that were all jazzed up for D3 all have the same sentiment.. it's just "okay". They are playing it to play something, and really aren't that into it. In fact, the young kid I work with, who was ALL ABOUT D3 talk for the last few months, said he's bored with it already.

This is kind of how my group seems to feel. There are some casuals who aren't that far and are still working their way through it. The rest of us are doing Inferno already but I can't see it becoming a thing we do for long because the loot isn't interesting enough to warrant the timesink. Not sure how I feel about Nephalem Valor, it seems like a smart anti-botting thing but running an entire act looking for champion packs isn't exactly fun either. Some of the champion pack modifiers are absurd in the extreme and just fall under the category of unforgiving instead of difficult (Firechains, Frozen, Phantoms, Mortar, really?!). There are some really annoying mechanics they brought over from WoW like enrage timers too. Some of my friends are bummed that they can't really use the builds they want to in the higher difficulties, most classes have to give up a lot for survivability.

I don't know, it's a fun game and I have no regrets for the money spent. It just isn't going to grab me for the length of the time I thought it would which is kind of disappointing, we're already on the look out for other MP games even. A friend of mine summed it up as "well polished, decent game but not game of the year material" and I think I'd agree with that.

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188. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 08:58 Quinn
 
MattyC wrote on May 22, 2012, 08:50:
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 08:27:
Bhruic wrote on May 22, 2012, 06:33:
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:24:
Wait what was off with his wording? You're saying the same thing. You have to complete normal mode with every single character you want to play a more difficult mode with!

The first guy didn't say you have to complete Normal mode with every class before higher difficulties are unlocked, although it seems you think that's what he said.

Anyway.. It's still fucking ridiculous. Once I finished normal mode with my mage, I wanna play nightmare with my Demon Hunter, ffs. You guys absolutely certain this isn't the case? Rage is boiling up, you see..

Uh, how is that any different than the way it worked in D2? Every new char you made had to play through Normal->Nightmare->Hell. You couldn't just skip to the end because you'd got a different character to Hell difficulty.

And that's, what? A good thing, Bhruic? It's a good thing the game has basically one difficulty when you think about it?

Normal is way too easy. Way. So easy that I'm often just bored out of my ass.

Besides, I hardly played D1 and D2. And still, what makes it a good thing D2 was exactly like you described? Also, there's people out there who just wanna have a nice, single playthrough with one or more characters, but not this freaking easy. I've had enough of my mage once I'm done with the campaign. I was looking forward for a more difficult mode with a new hero. Fuck!

Jesus, I truly hope nobody is that crazy to support Blizzard's ridiculous decision to do it like this. Normal difficulty is one perfectly fit for my never-gaming wife (a fact, for she enjoys it, being the noob she is. She only died once with her WD). For an experienced gamer like myself and probably all of us here.. well, we can do it with our eyes closed.

Ridiculous.

A new level 1 would not be able to do anything in nightmare. I am not sure what you don't understand about that. The story ends when you beat normal, but not the game. That is really where the game begins. Sorry you missed out on the previous Diablo titles, but that is how the games work.

I'm the foreign guy here but nowhere in my previous comment did I show any indication that I didn't understand that nightmare for a lvl 1 is too hard. In fact, if I didn't understand that concept my entire previous comment wouldn't make sense! It's exactly tha understanding why I'm pissed. Like I said, I'd wanna play this easy drag of a campaign with one hero if I must... if I had the ability to roll a new hero and dive into a higher (not impossible) difficulty.

Honestly, what is it YOU don't understand about my point? That's a better question.
 
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187. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 08:55 Mr. Tact
 
Agreed, complaining you can't take a new character directly to Nightmare makes no sense.  
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186. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 08:50 MattyC
 
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 08:27:
Bhruic wrote on May 22, 2012, 06:33:
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:24:
Wait what was off with his wording? You're saying the same thing. You have to complete normal mode with every single character you want to play a more difficult mode with!

The first guy didn't say you have to complete Normal mode with every class before higher difficulties are unlocked, although it seems you think that's what he said.

Anyway.. It's still fucking ridiculous. Once I finished normal mode with my mage, I wanna play nightmare with my Demon Hunter, ffs. You guys absolutely certain this isn't the case? Rage is boiling up, you see..

Uh, how is that any different than the way it worked in D2? Every new char you made had to play through Normal->Nightmare->Hell. You couldn't just skip to the end because you'd got a different character to Hell difficulty.

And that's, what? A good thing, Bhruic? It's a good thing the game has basically one difficulty when you think about it?

Normal is way too easy. Way. So easy that I'm often just bored out of my ass.

Besides, I hardly played D1 and D2. And still, what makes it a good thing D2 was exactly like you described? Also, there's people out there who just wanna have a nice, single playthrough with one or more characters, but not this freaking easy. I've had enough of my mage once I'm done with the campaign. I was looking forward for a more difficult mode with a new hero. Fuck!

Jesus, I truly hope nobody is that crazy to support Blizzard's ridiculous decision to do it like this. Normal difficulty is one perfectly fit for my never-gaming wife (a fact, for she enjoys it, being the noob she is. She only died once with her WD). For an experienced gamer like myself and probably all of us here.. well, we can do it with our eyes closed.

Ridiculous.

A new level 1 would not be able to do anything in nightmare. I am not sure what you don't understand about that. The story ends when you beat normal, but not the game. That is really where the game begins. Sorry you missed out on the previous Diablo titles, but that is how the games work.
 
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185. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 08:27 Quinn
 
Bhruic wrote on May 22, 2012, 06:33:
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:24:
Wait what was off with his wording? You're saying the same thing. You have to complete normal mode with every single character you want to play a more difficult mode with!

The first guy didn't say you have to complete Normal mode with every class before higher difficulties are unlocked, although it seems you think that's what he said.

Anyway.. It's still fucking ridiculous. Once I finished normal mode with my mage, I wanna play nightmare with my Demon Hunter, ffs. You guys absolutely certain this isn't the case? Rage is boiling up, you see..

Uh, how is that any different than the way it worked in D2? Every new char you made had to play through Normal->Nightmare->Hell. You couldn't just skip to the end because you'd got a different character to Hell difficulty.

And that's, what? A good thing, Bhruic? It's a good thing the game has basically one difficulty when you think about it?

Normal is way too easy. Way. So easy that I'm often just bored out of my ass.

Besides, I hardly played D1 and D2. And still, what makes it a good thing D2 was exactly like you described? Also, there's people out there who just wanna have a nice, single playthrough with one or more characters, but not this freaking easy. I've had enough of my mage once I'm done with the campaign. I was looking forward for a more difficult mode with a new hero. Fuck!

Jesus, I truly hope nobody is that crazy to support Blizzard's ridiculous decision to do it like this. Normal difficulty is one perfectly fit for my never-gaming wife (a fact, for she enjoys it, being the noob she is. She only died once with her WD). For an experienced gamer like myself and probably all of us here.. well, we can do it with our eyes closed.

Ridiculous.
 
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184. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 07:10 Dev
 
stupid blizzard, their status page says they are up, but when you try and login its offline:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/status
Plus the auction house went down for a number of hours before the maintenance
 
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183. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 06:33 Bhruic
 
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:24:
Wait what was off with his wording? You're saying the same thing. You have to complete normal mode with every single character you want to play a more difficult mode with!

The first guy didn't say you have to complete Normal mode with every class before higher difficulties are unlocked, although it seems you think that's what he said.

Anyway.. It's still fucking ridiculous. Once I finished normal mode with my mage, I wanna play nightmare with my Demon Hunter, ffs. You guys absolutely certain this isn't the case? Rage is boiling up, you see..

Uh, how is that any different than the way it worked in D2? Every new char you made had to play through Normal->Nightmare->Hell. You couldn't just skip to the end because you'd got a different character to Hell difficulty.
 
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182. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 05:01 InBlack
 
beigemore wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:58:
entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:15:
That is absolutely my No. 1 complaint about the game as well. In order to play on any of the fun difficulty levels you have to complete the entire game on normal (easy) once for EVERY character class. I was expecting all the online hassles, but I never thought they could screw up the difficulty so badly. It just about single-handedly ruins the game, it's not any fun this way.

It sounds like you don't know how those other modes work. They aren't just slightly harder game modes. The enemies on act 1 in nightmare aren't level 1 with a few extra hit points. The enemies you first run across in nightmare are somewhere around level 30 or 40. If you make a new character, it starts at level 1. If that character were to join a nightmare game, do you think it could stand up to those level 30 enemies?

I understand what you are wanting, but that simply isn't how the game works.

I would have just told him to get off my lawn but this works too I guess...
 
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181. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 04:58 beigemore
 
entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:15:
That is absolutely my No. 1 complaint about the game as well. In order to play on any of the fun difficulty levels you have to complete the entire game on normal (easy) once for EVERY character class. I was expecting all the online hassles, but I never thought they could screw up the difficulty so badly. It just about single-handedly ruins the game, it's not any fun this way.

It sounds like you don't know how those other modes work. They aren't just slightly harder game modes. The enemies on act 1 in nightmare aren't level 1 with a few extra hit points. The enemies you first run across in nightmare are somewhere around level 30 or 40. If you make a new character, it starts at level 1. If that character were to join a nightmare game, do you think it could stand up to those level 30 enemies?

I understand what you are wanting, but that simply isn't how the game works.
 
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180. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 04:52 Fibrocyte
 
Quinn wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:24:
entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:13:
eunichron wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:47:
Dev wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:17:
entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:15:
That is absolutely my No. 1 complaint about the game as well. In order to play on any of the fun difficulty levels you have to complete the entire game on normal (easy) once for EVERY character class. I was expecting all the online hassles, but I never thought they could screw up the difficulty so badly. It just about single-handedly ruins the game, it's not any fun this way.
Wait. WTF!? Easy on EVERY CHARACTER class? I thought I'd only need to play it once ever. How freaking boring is that. D2 wasn't that way I don't think.

I think his wording was a bit off... you don't have to complete normal with every class to play Nightmare/Hell/Inferno at all, you only have to complete it for that specific character. There is a linear progression, i.e. to play Hell you have to defeat Nightmare, to play Inferno you have to defeat Hell and be level 60 (max level). Diablo 2 was that way as well, and the reasoning is that the health and damage of the mobs are scaled up, as are the item drops (essentially the first mob in Normal is level 1, the first mob in Nightmare would be level 30). However, unlike Diablo 2, in Diablo 3 once you beat Normal you don't have to do the quests or acts in order on subsequent difficulties. For example I was just in a coop Nightmare game with a friend, we were on Act III, we were level 46-ish. Our third friend jumped in with his level 36 Witch Doctor who had only completed Act I Nightmare, but he was able to join us when we were half way through Act III. It also seems that our other friend got an experience boost as he caught up to us in levels fairly quickly. We finished all of Act III and he was level 43 or 44 while we were both 49.


I believe only Diablo 1 allowed you to choose a difficulty starting from level 1, but if I remember correctly you still had to complete the game on Normal with any character before you could play the harder difficulties.

Wait what was off with his wording? You're saying the same thing. You have to complete normal mode with every single character you want to play a more difficult mode with!

The first guy didn't say you have to complete Normal mode with every class before higher difficulties are unlocked, although it seems you think that's what he said.

Anyway.. It's still fucking ridiculous. Once I finished normal mode with my mage, I wanna play nightmare with my Demon Hunter, ffs. You guys absolutely certain this isn't the case? Rage is boiling up, you see..

I beat Normal w/ my Barbarian and went to Nightmare. I then loaded up my Mage and he still has to trudge through Normal - there's no option to go Nightmare.

So it seems you do have to complete each difficulty with each char.
 
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179. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 04:51 beigemore
 
I'm sure your level 1 demon hunter would do great in nightmare.  
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178. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 04:24 Quinn
 
entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 04:13:
eunichron wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:47:
Dev wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:17:
entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:15:
That is absolutely my No. 1 complaint about the game as well. In order to play on any of the fun difficulty levels you have to complete the entire game on normal (easy) once for EVERY character class. I was expecting all the online hassles, but I never thought they could screw up the difficulty so badly. It just about single-handedly ruins the game, it's not any fun this way.
Wait. WTF!? Easy on EVERY CHARACTER class? I thought I'd only need to play it once ever. How freaking boring is that. D2 wasn't that way I don't think.

I think his wording was a bit off... you don't have to complete normal with every class to play Nightmare/Hell/Inferno at all, you only have to complete it for that specific character. There is a linear progression, i.e. to play Hell you have to defeat Nightmare, to play Inferno you have to defeat Hell and be level 60 (max level). Diablo 2 was that way as well, and the reasoning is that the health and damage of the mobs are scaled up, as are the item drops (essentially the first mob in Normal is level 1, the first mob in Nightmare would be level 30). However, unlike Diablo 2, in Diablo 3 once you beat Normal you don't have to do the quests or acts in order on subsequent difficulties. For example I was just in a coop Nightmare game with a friend, we were on Act III, we were level 46-ish. Our third friend jumped in with his level 36 Witch Doctor who had only completed Act I Nightmare, but he was able to join us when we were half way through Act III. It also seems that our other friend got an experience boost as he caught up to us in levels fairly quickly. We finished all of Act III and he was level 43 or 44 while we were both 49.


I believe only Diablo 1 allowed you to choose a difficulty starting from level 1, but if I remember correctly you still had to complete the game on Normal with any character before you could play the harder difficulties.

Wait what was off with his wording? You're saying the same thing. You have to complete normal mode with every single character you want to play a more difficult mode with!

The first guy didn't say you have to complete Normal mode with every class before higher difficulties are unlocked, although it seems you think that's what he said.

Anyway.. It's still fucking ridiculous. Once I finished normal mode with my mage, I wanna play nightmare with my Demon Hunter, ffs. You guys absolutely certain this isn't the case? Rage is boiling up, you see..
 
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177. Re: Diablo III Hacking? May 22, 2012, 04:13 entr0py
 
Yes you're right, I was going to come back and correct what I said, but you did a better job than I would have. I think they have set it up that way to try to try to get players more invested in individual characters, and ensure that there is a steady progression of better loot all the way up to Inferno. All designed to get us to care about the auction house. I genuinely think the game will be much more enjoyable when and if some group creates a good server emulator.


eunichron wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:47:
Dev wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:17:
entr0py wrote on May 22, 2012, 01:15:
That is absolutely my No. 1 complaint about the game as well. In order to play on any of the fun difficulty levels you have to complete the entire game on normal (easy) once for EVERY character class. I was expecting all the online hassles, but I never thought they could screw up the difficulty so badly. It just about single-handedly ruins the game, it's not any fun this way.
Wait. WTF!? Easy on EVERY CHARACTER class? I thought I'd only need to play it once ever. How freaking boring is that. D2 wasn't that way I don't think.

I think his wording was a bit off... you don't have to complete normal with every class to play Nightmare/Hell/Inferno at all, you only have to complete it for that specific character. There is a linear progression, i.e. to play Hell you have to defeat Nightmare, to play Inferno you have to defeat Hell and be level 60 (max level). Diablo 2 was that way as well, and the reasoning is that the health and damage of the mobs are scaled up, as are the item drops (essentially the first mob in Normal is level 1, the first mob in Nightmare would be level 30). However, unlike Diablo 2, in Diablo 3 once you beat Normal you don't have to do the quests or acts in order on subsequent difficulties. For example I was just in a coop Nightmare game with a friend, we were on Act III, we were level 46-ish. Our third friend jumped in with his level 36 Witch Doctor who had only completed Act I Nightmare, but he was able to join us when we were half way through Act III. It also seems that our other friend got an experience boost as he caught up to us in levels fairly quickly. We finished all of Act III and he was level 43 or 44 while we were both 49.


I believe only Diablo 1 allowed you to choose a difficulty starting from level 1, but if I remember correctly you still had to complete the game on Normal with any character before you could play the harder difficulties.
 
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