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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 16:34 |
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Bit harsh Cutter? There's a lot of gamers out there who don't read any gaming news - if I hadn't developed the Bluesnews habit a long time ago I probably wouldn't either.
With any other consumer product this stuff just isn't normal at all. It's really not unreasonable for people to simply expect things they buy to work.
That said, yeah OK a lot of whining is really ridiculous, but then shit floats to the top on the interwebs. For every ridiculous rant there's a hundred other folk who are annoyed to a rational extent.
People are relatively tolerant when it happens to a multiplayer game, because connectivity and so on is inherent. It's not to singleplayer, where Blizz decided to make it reliant on connectivity, introducing scope for the problems. |
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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 16:15 |
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scream for a refund instead... Taking money away from a company is tracked..
Assuming you're willing to risk $50 or $60 that they'll even give you the money back. That's a bit of a gamble these days...
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 15:56 |
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It's very easy to ensure these sorts of shenanigans don't succeed. Just don't buy the game. No sales are the ONLY thing Actiblizz understands. We know there are a lot of stupid gamers out there, but there are also many disingenuous ones as well. It's not like this always-on DRM was a secret they sprung on people when the first launched the game. It was well known this was the case. So what exactly were they expecting to occur? No, this is about a bunch of whiny, self-entitled brats who thought buying into this garbage would be ok this time. And now they've learned otherwise - at the cost of $60 and their self-respect. Whores.
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| "Are you crazy? Is that your problem?" - Jack Burton |
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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 15:12 |
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Saboth wrote on May 19, 2012, 15:01:
I agree. More people need to start asking: is this what gamers are willing to accept? I'm willing to accept it if: I can make money off the product for my own use. Otherwise, no. |
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"For every human problem,
there is a neat, simple solution;
and it is always wrong."
--H.L. Mencken |
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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 15:01 |
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ASeven wrote on May 19, 2012, 11:50:
What a great article, we need more articles like this one.
I agree. More people need to start asking: is this what gamers are willing to accept? Forced connections and limited ability to play products you've paid for? I respect a company's right to protect their product, only so far as it doesn't adversely affect the purchaser. We are buying a game. We should be able to play 24/7, regardless of internet connection. I do not drive my car 6 days a week or watch TV 5 days a week. The problem with this DRM scheme is it has twice the chance of failing. If my internet goes out, or my connection is spotty (remember, only 60-70% of the US even HAS high speed internet and alway-on connections available to them...many people have to suffer with dialup still), it drops. If their servers are down or they are having update problems, I also can't play. Thats multiple chances for failure, and honestly, not acceptable. If TL2 was out now, I would never even consider D3. |
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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 14:25 |
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Alamar wrote on May 19, 2012, 13:33:
deqer wrote on May 19, 2012, 12:05:
oh hai guys,
this might seem off-topic, but here's a link to 28 pages of refund threads.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/search?q=refunds&f=post&forum=3354739
This brings up a really good point...
If you want to 'vote with your money'... Don't not buy something... scream for a refund instead... Taking money away from a company is tracked... not buying (much like piracy in general) can't be.
-Alamar
Most companies won't refund you. Last I heard, if I remember right, is that digital software sales are considered a service and not a product so many credit card companies won't refund you either (unless you go the route of claiming it was stolen, dangerous in the long term). |
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| *automatically refuses to place horse heads in anyone's bed* |
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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 13:33 |
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deqer wrote on May 19, 2012, 12:05:
oh hai guys,
this might seem off-topic, but here's a link to 28 pages of refund threads.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/search?q=refunds&f=post&forum=3354739
This brings up a really good point...
If you want to 'vote with your money'... Don't not buy something... scream for a refund instead... Taking money away from a company is tracked... not buying (much like piracy in general) can't be.
-Alamar |
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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 13:11 |
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Soooo.... the players in fact do mind that the servers are down. Most of the players are online (as per the requirement on their end), it's Blizzard's servers that aren't.
It doesn't really matter how many people are whining now because the fact is that once Blizzard gets everything righted only the people who were never going to play Diablo III anyway will still be crying over having to be connected all the time. This is Blizzard, after all. You'll take it how they give it to you and you'll like it!  |
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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 12:24 |
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HorrorScope wrote on May 19, 2012, 11:42:
I really don't know if there is more of a shill media then the gaming one. It really can't be more obvious unless in each article they just state. "This is _______ and they comp'd us ________ to bring you a very positive outlook on this game." That's only with the big boys, the smaller houses may get a standard fair shake, but I see it overly critical for them. So it just continues to prove this is a benefits system that is fostered by the big boys to protect them and smear the rest whenever possible.
"Pay-to-win" describes most "journalists" pretty well these days- yes I include FOX, et. all.
BTW the reason the big boys are the big boys is because small, private business people are labeled as "rich" now- they don't have access to the shell game that is the stock market and (in the USA) the 75,000 pages of tax code.
Someone may have a $1mil/year income and spend 90% of it on payroll/PPE but most people can't think beyond "I make 1 MILLION DOLLARS, BWAHAHAHA".
I'd trust a millionaire-proprietor over a VP that pockets a quarter-mill a year for pretending that although 80% of their employees reside in the USA, all of their income comes from a warehouse in southern Ireland.
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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 12:05 |
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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 11:53 |
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I thought that review scores being obviously and blatantly skewed by hype, glossing over of issues on big releases that would be hammered on smaller ones, and recently even a general distaste for their own readership was enough reason to see that game journalism fails.
Maybe it's just a case of emulating the biggest, though. IGN is the worst at all of those and others have tried to match it, in the same way that Fox got big and the other news organizations shot their coverage full of terrible opinion pieces to keep up.
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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 11:50 |
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| What a great article, we need more articles like this one. |
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Re: Op Ed |
May 19, 2012, 11:42 |
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| I really don't know if there is more of a shill media then the gaming one. It really can't be more obvious unless in each article they just state. "This is _______ and they comp'd us ________ to bring you a very positive outlook on this game." That's only with the big boys, the smaller houses may get a standard fair shake, but I see it overly critical for them. So it just continues to prove this is a benefits system that is fostered by the big boys to protect them and smear the rest whenever possible. |
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