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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 16, 2012, 09:36 |
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There is a regular closed beta that is going on at the same time. (Not to be confused with the BWE's). This is why you can logon every few days and see some patch activity... even if you can't get in the actual game.
The Sylvari and Asura are available in the closed beta, so I have heard. This would indicate that ArenaNet is purposely withholding them from a majority of the beta "testers" until launch.
Technically nothing is "finished", even the races and classes we get to play on the BWE's. By Finished, I mean launch ready.
The BWE's are more for stress testing, than Beta testing. As I've said... there is an ongoing closed beta, and the game is live daily. Obviously they are also a marketing tool to get people to pre-purchase. So, while the BWE's are marketing in nature, they also get valuable stress test info, and some more general feedback in their beta forums and their in-game surveys. Any "special stress testing days" beyond the BWE's are a bonus for both them and us... obviously they think they had some things fixxed or alleviated, in order to call up a "special" stress test this last Monday... but technically, that's what all the BWE's really are. Don't be fooled into thinking you are actually beta testing in a BWE. |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 16, 2012, 09:21 |
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PropheT wrote on May 16, 2012, 00:44:
The magic release day patch, ah yes. It's a mythical creature commonly mentioned on message boards leading up to the release date of a game that's clearly not done yet. "Don't you realize we're just testing an outdated version?!?" is my personal favorite version of this.
Indeed, its wishful thinking and public relations in equal portion. It rarely ever turns out to be true and more often than not just leaves a lot of bitter enthusiasts. |
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Playing: Faster Than Light, Tales of Graces F, Fire Emblem 3DS
Watching: Ghost in the Shell, Hannibal, Oblivion |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 16, 2012, 03:55 |
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They have said they are not putting sylvari and asura starting zones in beta on purpose. This wasn't in some marketing canned response, but an offhand comment by a dev at a convention in response to a question. I'm hoping they change their mind...
Still, you can't use what is in and what isn't in the beta as a barometer for release. Only how complete what IS shown is. Most errors and missing things seem minor to my eyes. If they can be fixed, and that is a big if, it could release next month.
I don't think that would be a great idea, but it's certainly possible. |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 16, 2012, 03:55 |
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PropheT wrote on May 16, 2012, 00:44:
The magic release day patch, ah yes. It's a mythical creature commonly mentioned on message boards leading up to the release date of a game that's clearly not done yet. "Don't you realize we're just testing an outdated version?!?" is my personal favorite version of this.
In general I'd agree with this. With ArenaNet, I'm not so sure. They're the one company I can recall who did implement a miracle patch between final beta weekend event and release for the original Guild Wars. Granted, some of the chances weren't positive (skill purchases for PvP), but they changed A LOT and had way more content than could've been expected based on the public beta weekends.
That being said, Guild Wars didn't really even need a miracle patch in the first place. Even the original open alpha event was very playable and solid. Guild Wars 2 on the other hand clearly still needs a fair bit of work, particularly in terms of performance. I'd be surprised if they release it in June. August or September would seem more likely as earliest estimates.
It's also important to note that ArenaNet started Guild Wars beta weekend events some 7-8 months prior to the game's eventual release. Guild Wars 2 only had its first beta weekend a couple of weeks ago. So if their Guild Wars development process is anything to go by, then we've certainly still got some waiting to do. |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 16, 2012, 01:03 |
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KTR wrote on May 16, 2012, 00:39:
eunichron wrote on May 16, 2012, 00:11:
Don't tell me you're buying into that, "We're saving it for a surprise!" BS.
Being that the two other races were available at various press events/gaming conventions...yea, I am buying in to "that."
"Available" and "finished" are two entirely different things. The game is "available" in beta at the moment, but it is nowhere near "finished". Further reinforced by the fact that the only times they have shown off the Sylvari and Asura are with pre-made characters at high levels... it's pretty clear that the Sylvari and Asura starting zones aren't finished, and that is why they're not in the beta, and that is why there's no way in hell the game is coming out in June.
Not that I'm complaining, I'm looking forward to the game just as much as you (maybe even as much as Cutter), but I also want it to have enough time to bake in the oven before it goes live. |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 16, 2012, 00:50 |
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eunichron wrote on May 15, 2012, 23:26:
As amazing as what they have already is, it's nowhere near done. Half the instances don't work, two of the races aren't even implemented! No way in hell this is being released any time within 2 months.
Asura and Sylvari are in, they just aren't available in the beta weekends. Anet wants to have some surprises for release, but if we are lucky we'll get em in the next BWE. Lucky closed beta testers. |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 16, 2012, 00:44 |
PropheT |
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KTR wrote on May 15, 2012, 23:45:
Uh...you do know that NCsoft is doing that on purpose?!?
The magic release day patch, ah yes. It's a mythical creature commonly mentioned on message boards leading up to the release date of a game that's clearly not done yet. "Don't you realize we're just testing an outdated version?!?" is my personal favorite version of this.
Anyway.
Companies aren't in the habit of making their product available without an NDA to people who are seeing an unfinished non-representative version of their work. That's really all there is to it; if what you saw seems definitively like it needs more time in the oven, then it does. |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 16, 2012, 00:39 |
KTR |
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eunichron wrote on May 16, 2012, 00:11:
Don't tell me you're buying into that, "We're saving it for a surprise!" BS.
Being that the two other races were available at various press events/gaming conventions...yea, I am buying in to "that." |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 16, 2012, 00:11 |
eunichron |
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KTR wrote on May 15, 2012, 23:45:
eunichron wrote on May 15, 2012, 23:26:
As amazing as what they have already is, it's nowhere near done. Half the instances don't work, two of the races aren't even implemented! No way in hell this is being released any time within 2 months.
Uh...you do know that NCsoft is doing that on purpose?!?
Don't tell me you're buying into that, "We're saving it for a surprise!" BS. |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 15, 2012, 23:45 |
KTR |
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eunichron wrote on May 15, 2012, 23:26:
As amazing as what they have already is, it's nowhere near done. Half the instances don't work, two of the races aren't even implemented! No way in hell this is being released any time within 2 months.
Uh...you do know that NCsoft is doing that on purpose?!? |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 15, 2012, 23:40 |
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| doesn't a fiscal quarter end around those June dates....just saying...if a company wanted to get as many sales as possible before the quarter ended making up release dates for popular games would be the way to pad it a bit. |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 15, 2012, 23:30 |
NKD |
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| Yeah this game is definitely not ready to go. I'm not a huge fan to begin with, but I still bought it for a family member and will try it again after release. |
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| If you don't like where gaming is heading, stop giving your money to the people who are taking it in that direction. |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 15, 2012, 23:26 |
eunichron |
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| As amazing as what they have already is, it's nowhere near done. Half the instances don't work, two of the races aren't even implemented! No way in hell this is being released any time within 2 months. |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 15, 2012, 23:26 |
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Hey nin, when you rage against the machine do you listen to Rage Against the Machine?
I've never been too much into their stuff...I know a couple of singles here and there (Bulls on Parade springs to mind) but that's it.
But I have a number of Richard Cheese albums. 
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 15, 2012, 23:14 |
loomy |
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| the gw developers move faster and patch more often than anybody. I think people will be surprised in a few months once the dust settles |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 15, 2012, 23:12 |
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nin wrote on May 15, 2012, 23:00:
Which sickness?
LoL, I pictured a bunch of older people in a jazz bar smoking, drinking, and listening to that version.  |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 15, 2012, 23:08 |
Cutter |
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nin wrote on May 15, 2012, 23:00:
Which sickness?
Haha, Richard Cheese is awesome. Great call!
Hey nin, when you rage against the machine do you listen to Rage Against the Machine? |
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| "Are you crazy? Is that your problem?" - Jack Burton |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 15, 2012, 23:08 |
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wtf_man wrote on May 15, 2012, 21:12:
As much as I love the game... it still needs work. I doubt it will be fixed within 1-2 "once a month - weekend betas"
So, I hope this is wrong and they aren't launching prematurely like most other jackass developers / publishers do.
Yeah, not to mention we haven't even played the Asura and the Silvari. I highly doubt that it's going to be ready in a month. |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 15, 2012, 23:00 |
nin |
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Which sickness?
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: Ad Says Guild Wars 2 Next Month |
May 15, 2012, 22:47 |
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Hate to sound like a shill... but from what I got to see and play I am down with the sickness. The game is good fun and all with no monthly fee. I pre-purchased with no regret. While I sit here trying to decide if I should open or e-bay this Diablo 3 CE.  |
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