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If you want to argue that used game sales hurt the industry as a whole, go ahead. I don't neccasarily agree, but the argument can certainly be made. But stretching that argument to say that pirating a game is the equivalent of buying used is absurd.
It's not absurd at all. You keep arguing that used sales originated from new sales. This is true (mostly). However, we're not talking about new sales. We're talking about used sales. And for every used sale, neither the publisher nor developer sees a penny. Yes, they saw money when the original, new copy was sold. But that was one transaction. Every transaction made afterwards? No compensation. That's why a sale of a used game and a sale of a pirated game are pretty much exactly the same; neither the publisher nor developer sees any compensation and all profit goes to a third-party that wasn't involved in the game's development.
If you buy a used game, you are not a customer of the publisher or developer that created it because you (the person buying the used copy, not the person who bought the new one) haven't paid them for their work. Same thing applies to piracy.
Developers have a fucking incentive to make good, long games to discourage people selling their game back after a week! I don't know what the fuck you look for in video games but I like to think that when I spend $60 on one I'm going to get more than a fucking weekend's worth of entertainment out of it.
I agree. Developers should make better games with more longevity. However, there's only so much they can do to prevent used sales. The typical RPG is about 40 hours long. Most people only do one playthrough. A 40 hour game can be beaten in about a week if you have a full-time job, less if you don't. So, what's to stop people from selling games like this back? Adding multiplayer? That's not really a good solution, as tacked on multiplayer tends to be half-assed or forgettable. DLC? Sure, except people tend to get bored of games long before the DLC is released. Of all the people who bought Skyrim, how many actually played through more than 30% of the game's content? How many of those people decided to keep the game in anticipation of future DLC? Most consumers have short attention spans. Most consumers are also cheap and will take any opportunity to save and/or make money. Used sales accommodate both of these traits.
There really isn't any way to stop used sales of single-player games, no matter how good or long those games may be. Well, you can use DRM to stop used sales (but not piracy, ironically), but that's not quite ideal.
How many times do you think the same box/disc is sold and resold? Do you think GameStop has one copy of every video game that gets resold an indefinite number of times? Do you think used game buyers patiently wait for their turn to play GameStop's single used copy of a video game? Do you think the entire continental United States' used game industry is supplied by a single used copy from GameStop???
Not really sure what you're trying to say. GameStop obviously isn't the only source for used games. Ebay, Amazon, Goozex, GameFly... there are many sources available. While not as easy as finding a pirated copy, finding a used copy of any given game isn't exactly difficult these days. Just ask Tumbler. In any case, the facts remain the same: neither publishers nor developers see any compensation from used sales.
Pirates don't wait in line, they don't pay a cent to anybody, they circumvent any and all DRM. Piracy is entirely destructive to the industry.
The street vendors selling pirated games in third-world countries prove that yes, pirates are willing to pay money. They pay money for pirated games because they either can't afford new games, they have no access to new games or they're simply cheap. Also, pirates often do wait in line when it comes to PC game piracy. Some games take a few days to crack so buying them new would actually allow you to play them sooner. As for piracy's actual impact on the industry, that's pretty debatable (and has been debated fairly recently on this site) so not much point in retreading old ground.
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