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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 17, 2012, 11:48 |
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Bhruic wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 19:43:
That you can't see this is quite scary.
this phenomena can be found in at least 95% of human population..
so go ahead and do the math... IF YOU DARE!! |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 22:38 |
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Lorcin wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 18:59:
As an outsider of both the US and NZ this looks BAD. America is already pretty low on the popularity poll and then there are incidents like this where they just look awfully corrupt and like a bully.
Yes. Follow the money. Globalist corporations that give little respect to national borders. This is coming to a theater near you.
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| Political freedom can only be preceded by economic freedom which is preceded by monetary freedom. |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 22:10 |
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Lorcin wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 18:59:
As an outsider of both the US and NZ this looks BAD. America is already pretty low on the popularity poll and then there are incidents like this where they just look awfully corrupt and like a bully. Maybe thats because it is? This is only one in a string of events in recent history.
At least so far its not as bad as russia, with its pres having reporters executed with shots to the head if they report something he doesn't like. |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 21:53 |
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Cutter wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 10:43:
Bhruic wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 13:18:
There's this little thing called "innocent until proven guilty". Perhaps you've heard of it.
Yeah, and I agree with it... it should be held in escrow untill they're proven innocent...
A warrant is not proof of guilt, nor is it a fair trial. |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 19:59 |
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| Centralized government has failed in America. It's time to flush the Constipation and Bill of Goods down the toilet and start over where the Articles of Confederation left off. |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 19:43 |
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Cutter wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 13:55:
Bhruic wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 13:18:
Cutter wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 10:43:
Well, you're only entitled to legal counsel. Nowhere does it say that you get any specific counsel you want. I side with the government on this one. MU's money should be held in escrow pending the outcome of the trial. If the lawyers feel they have a solid case they can collect their fee after they win.
There's this little thing called "innocent until proven guilty". Perhaps you've heard of it.
Yeah, and I agree with it. Once again, however, you're only guarenteed a right to counsel not any counsel you want. And if there was sufficient evidence to warrant their arrest and seizure of monies made by alledged criminal activities it should be held in escrow untill they're proven innocent because otherwise you're allowing then to spend ill-gotten gains on counsel when it should be held for restitution. No one is denying them their constitutional rights here. This is just a bunch of greedy lawyers wanting to represent criminals - and yes they have been convicted of previous crimes in the past - so they're attempting to play the big bad government card.
I don't understand, you claim you agree with it, and then go against everything that it means. Hell, you even use the phrase "proven innocent". They are innocent. Right now, he is innocent of all charges against him. This only ceases to be the case if the prosecution can prove, in court, that he is guilty.
What you are saying is that someone shouldn't be able to get competent legal council because there's a chance they might actually be guilty of something. Which is entirely counter to the fundamental principles of the legal system.
That you can't see this is quite scary. |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 19:22 |
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I'm probably more dissapointed with Obama than most, but let's be real, Dubya was probably the worst prez ever.
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| "Peter, breakfast for dinner is anarchy!" - Lois |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 18:59 |
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As an outsider of both the US and NZ this looks BAD. America is already pretty low on the popularity poll and then there are incidents like this where they just look awfully corrupt and like a bully.
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Re: sold it, smoked it, settled it |
Apr 16, 2012, 18:57 |
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space captain wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 16:58:
Creston wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 16:08:
Yeah, I guess I am.
didnt you watch the x-files, man? the conspiracy runs deep
If you start wearing a shady trenchcoat while smoking a cigarette, I'm outta here!
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 18:30 |
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zirik wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 17:43:
thats one of the things i hate about the current administration. he assigned DOJ posts to people from private industry... mainly the MPAA and RIAA. of course they will be biased to their former employers.
Or maybe they're getting paid as well by the MPAA and RIAA at the same time... |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 17:43 |
zirik |
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Dev wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 14:47:
Quboid wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 10:48:
but these IP owners aren't in a position to use the US DOJ for their own bidding. Pretty sure they are. The current pres put something like 8 or 10 ex-**AA people into DoJ positions. Which is why you see stuff like this.
thats one of the things i hate about the current administration. he assigned DOJ posts to people from private industry... mainly the MPAA and RIAA. of course they will be biased to their former employers. |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 17:38 |
zirik |
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eRe4s3r wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 11:13:
And the US gov knows full well it'd lose this if Megaupload comes with top IP law experts to court.
thats the problem. once the DOJ faces arguments that parallel those of viacom vs youtube their case will fall apart. they give preferential treatment to one entity while everyone else has to follow a different rule. |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 17:31 |
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Cutter wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 13:55:
Yeah, and I agree with it. Once again, however, you're only guarenteed a right to counsel not any counsel you want.
so what youre saying is that dotcom is not allowed to hire lawyers that are competent? thats bullshit. if i was charged with copyright infringement i wouldnt hire a divorce lawyer. i would get someone with experience. |
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sold it, smoked it, settled it |
Apr 16, 2012, 16:58 |
space captain |
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Creston wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 16:08:
Yeah, I guess I am.
didnt you watch the x-files, man? the conspiracy runs deep
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 16:13 |
Creston |
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LittleMe wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 15:34:
Corporations now use government to destroy their competition and/or give them an advantage in the marketplace. Behind all the populist-sounding rhetoric is the the creation of a crony-capitalist empire. In other words, this is Corporatism at work. Corporatism is an essential element in a fascist society. Yes, it can get worse than this.
Look on the bright side, though. In 40 years, we'll all be running the Shadows for LOFWYR!
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 16:08 |
Creston |
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space captain wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 13:34:
Creston wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 12:29:
I seem to recall a somewhat recently elected president saying that he was going to change that entire culture.
Oh wait, he was just talking. That's all he ever did: Talk. 
Creston
you must be new to politics
Yeah, I guess I am. It's confusing to me that when Bush did this, everyone on the Internet was screaming hell and bloody murder all day long, but now that favorite wunderkind Obama is doing the exact same thing( and in some cases far worse things) everyone's all like "Yeah. Oh well... when's Archer Season Four starting?"
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 15:34 |
LittleMe |
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Corporations now use government to destroy their competition and/or give them an advantage in the marketplace. Behind all the populist-sounding rhetoric is the the creation of a crony-capitalist empire. In other words, this is Corporatism at work. Corporatism is an essential element in a fascist society. Yes, it can get worse than this.
edit: i mean this in regards to them seemingly having the feds at their beck & call to take Megaupload down.
This comment was edited on Apr 16, 2012, 22:40. |
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| Political freedom can only be preceded by economic freedom which is preceded by monetary freedom. |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 15:06 |
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Dev wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 14:47:
Quboid wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 10:48:
but these IP owners aren't in a position to use the US DOJ for their own bidding. Pretty sure they are. The current pres put something like 8 or 10 ex-**AA people into DoJ positions. Which is why you see stuff like this. The DoJ is mostly under control of the executive branch, which makes far more sense than claiming one of the 400+ congress ppl and a random state governor doing anything about this as the previous post claims lol.
I meant the people who stored legitimate content on MegaUpload, whose data (and rights) have been ignored by the Department of Justice (sponsored by MAFIAA). |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 14:47 |
Dev |
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Quboid wrote on Apr 16, 2012, 10:48:
but these IP owners aren't in a position to use the US DOJ for their own bidding. Pretty sure they are. The current pres put something like 8 or 10 ex-**AA people into DoJ positions. Which is why you see stuff like this. The DoJ is mostly under control of the executive branch, which makes far more sense than claiming one of the 400+ congress ppl and a random state governor doing anything about this as the previous post claims lol. |
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs |
Apr 16, 2012, 14:40 |
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| This is the same government that's been assaulting our rights for the last three and a half years. Scott Walker and John Boehner have been the main movers in making sure of this. So I can't say I'm surprised that they're trying every dirty trick in the book to make sure they don't lose. |
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| Slow and steady might not win the race at first, until you shoot everyone ahead of you. |
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