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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 15, 2012, 01:36 |
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mag wrote on Apr 14, 2012, 22:41: Half-Life sucks. The more time they spend working on not-HL3 the better. mmmkay... |
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| proudly fragging noobs in deathmatch since 1999 |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 15, 2012, 00:30 |
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Left 4 Dead series was so fresh, it was almost a genre of its own. It was the most innovative thing Valve has created.
Half-Life was a front-loaded on-rails FPS which got progressively worse as it went on. It made no positive impact on the industry. Instead, it got the idea into developers' heads that its okay to reduce interactivity, simplify level design at expense of rigid scripted sequences, and no one will question them.
Sadly, as the success of COD shows... they were absolutely right. |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 23:53 |
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elefunk wrote on Apr 14, 2012, 20:14: To me, Valve is the company that revolutionized storytelling in first-person games, revolutionized how well co-op games can be implemented, revolutionized digital distribution for the better, and revolutionized the way the entire gaming industry looks at pricing and sales.
So.....yeah....I want Half-Life 3, but I'd rather see what they revolutionize next. "revolutionized storytelling in first-person game" - Ah yes valve did indeed invent the corridor crawler with half life although others have taken the concept and refined it. I think possibly it's ultimate perfected form is manifested in the latest Call of Duty games.
"revolutionized how well co-op games can be implemented" - by adding in elements from competitive multiplayer games.
"revolutionized digital distribution for the better" - by digitally shackling their games to an application which is designed to take away a gamers control over their own software. Of course this has also been further refined by others and now has become the wonderful "always on" DRM used by Ubisoft and others. Whether this is "better" depends on who you are.
"revolutionized the way the entire gaming industry looks at pricing and sales" - not sure if I would call this a revolution outside of the above, if you have tight control of your software distribution then radically fluctuating prices to achieve maximum profit is pretty obvious.
So yes valve completely deserves our uncritical adulation. Keep up the good work! |
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Assley Putz "Was vocalminority assley putzs most recent handle?" -nin May 16, 2012, 10:52 |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 22:41 |
mag |
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| Half-Life sucks. The more time they spend working on not-HL3 the better. |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 22:26 |
Mordecai Walfish |
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| great read, keeping his blog rss'd =) |
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| Playing: MechWarrior Online, Natural Selection 2, PlanetSide 2, NFS: Hot Pursuit, Torchlight 2, Sine Mora, GTAIV, River City Ransom(NES), Final Fantasy IV Complete(PSP), Patapon 2(PSP), Dariusburst(PSP) |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 22:11 |
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RollinThundr wrote on Apr 14, 2012, 20:17: Halflife had story telling? Could have fooled me. It had the best kind of video game story telling. No not walls of text talking about Knights and swords followed by predictable "choices" leading to predictable "consequences" that an 8 year old could see coming - no, it's story telling was achieved through visceral well structured set pieces the player actually took part in, well connected by a great theme, which by the end made you feel like you'd experienced a journey yourself - that's about the best "story telling" a game can manage - not hand holding a bunch of NPCs through THEIR story while you passively sat watching out in the real world behind your keyboard. I went off on a tangent. Deal with it.
This comment was edited on Apr 14, 2012, 22:20. |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 21:24 |
Techie714 © |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 21:00 |
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| Eh, some people just can't perceive a plot that isn't shoved down their throat by the game taking control of the camera/character and spelling it out with strongly-worded dialogue and explosions. |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 20:23 |
Sepharo |
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RollinThundr wrote on Apr 14, 2012, 20:17: Halflife had story telling? Could have fooled me. Haven't played it eh? |
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| [I'm not trolling I'm just] tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. -TrollinThundr |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 20:17 |
RollinThundr |
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elefunk wrote on Apr 14, 2012, 20:14: To me, Valve is the company that revolutionized storytelling in first-person games, revolutionized how well co-op games can be implemented, revolutionized digital distribution for the better, and revolutionized the way the entire gaming industry looks at pricing and sales.
So.....yeah....I want Half-Life 3, but I'd rather see what they revolutionize next. Halflife had story telling? Could have fooled me. |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 20:14 |
elefunk |
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To me, Valve is the company that revolutionized storytelling in first-person games, revolutionized how well co-op games can be implemented, revolutionized digital distribution for the better, and revolutionized the way the entire gaming industry looks at pricing and sales.
So.....yeah....I want Half-Life 3, but I'd rather see what they revolutionize next. |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 18:27 |
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Fletch wrote on Apr 14, 2012, 17:42: Sooo... when is Half-Life 3 coming out? Personally, I don't care how cool it is to work there. Valve, in my world, is the company who has yet to finish Half-Life. How about hiring some peeps who want to work on that? That's the other reason I find them getting into hardware as *very odd* because that requires a lot of structure, deadlines and other things that Valve doesn't seem to be interested in or very good at. |
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| "Are you crazy? Is that your problem?" - Jack Burton |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 18:05 |
nin |
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Wildone wrote on Apr 14, 2012, 17:27: *Personal anecdote:)) Oh well my personal anecdote was the opposite.
That was easy.
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 17:42 |
Fletch |
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| Sooo... when is Half-Life 3 coming out? Personally, I don't care how cool it is to work there. Valve, in my world, is the company who has yet to finish Half-Life. How about hiring some peeps who want to work on that? |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 17:27 |
Wildone |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 17:18 |
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| the hardware will probably end up being a VAC USB dongle to use so you can't cheat in Steamwork titles that will eventually support it. Think of it as the keygen fobs on roids. |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 15:53 |
Sepharo |
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Wildone wrote on Apr 14, 2012, 15:36: heh well on the flip side I heard of ppl there who do absolutely nothing too so.. Link? |
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| [I'm not trolling I'm just] tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. -TrollinThundr |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 15:36 |
Wildone |
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| heh well on the flip side I heard of ppl there who do absolutely nothing too so.. |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 14:59 |
Riker |
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| It really does sound like an amazing place to work. They seem to focus on hiring generally smart people with good work ethic, and then let them sort things out. I need to find a better job. |
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Re: Abrash on Valve, Snow Crash, and Wearable Computers |
Apr 14, 2012, 14:45 |
Wildone |
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| OMG they're making a wearable VR glasses computer OMG!!!! |
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