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Following today's announcement of the Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition for Windows, which was supported by a petition, a new petition is now online to protest the plan to use Games for Windows LIVE (thanks Reddit). Here's word: GFWL is unpopular, difficult to use, inconvenient, has terrible online support (a key feature in Dark Souls), and is downright unpleasant. After anxiously awaiting a PC release for this fantastic game it feels like a real slap in the face hearing Dark Souls will use Games for Windows Live. We recommend Valve's Steamworks in place, as this DRM is much easier to use, less intrusive, more reliable, and more accepted among PC gamers. Please reconsider the use of GFWL, or offer the game on both services. Thank you for taking the effort to port this game, but for a lot of customers it's Steam or no sale.
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You're 0 for 5 on Games for Windows Live. |
Apr 12, 2012, 22:50 |
IMAPC |
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theyarecomingforyou wrote on Apr 12, 2012, 08:46: GFWL doesn't remember serial keys False. Keys are saved and tied to the GFWL account used to enter them. They are also stored in encrypted form locally in <root>\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\XLive\Titles
makes backing up saved games a nightmare True, if you are an idiot with no computer skills. False, if you know how to copy files from <root>\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\XLive\Content
takes ages to login False. All of Microsoft's "Live" websites like Hotmail use the same login service, so there is plenty of bandwidth backing them. Are you on dial-up Internet or have some shit ISP?
It doesn't even save game progress to the cloud. False. It depends on the game. Some GFWL games do.
And whenever it needs to update itself it takes ages GFWL update process takes no longer than Windows Update as they both use the same BITS service and infrastructure.
If offers no advantages to me, only disadvantages. GFWL offers essentially the same features to Windows games that XBOX Live offers to 360 games. Those are its advantages. Is it perfect? Hell no, but it's also a hell of a lot better than you think given that what you think about it is almost totally wrong.
This comment was edited on Apr 13, 2012, 01:47. |
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Apr 11, 19:31 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
Jerykk |
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Apr 11, 19:37 |
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NKD |
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Apr 11, 19:39 |
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Elf Shot The Food |
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Apr 11, 19:48 |
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Icewind |
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Apr 11, 19:48 |
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Sempai |
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Apr 11, 21:09 |
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Paketep |
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Apr 11, 19:46 |
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The Half Elf |
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Apr 11, 20:39 |
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bigspender |
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Apr 11, 19:41 |
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NegaDeath |
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Apr 11, 19:44 |
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nin |
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Apr 11, 19:59 |
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Dades |
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Apr 11, 20:04 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
Rattlehead |
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Apr 11, 20:11 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
Sepharo |
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Apr 12, 01:39 |
not surprising coming from you |
IMAPC |
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Apr 12, 02:25 |
Re: not surprising coming from you |
Sepharo |
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Apr 12, 03:58 |
Re: not surprising coming from you |
InBlack |
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Apr 12, 07:58 |
Re: not surprising coming from you |
AdamK47 |
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Apr 12, 08:31 |
Re: not surprising coming from you |
InBlack |
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Apr 12, 09:19 |
Re: not surprising coming from you |
Verno |
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Apr 12, 22:35 |
removed |
IMAPC |
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Apr 13, 00:54 |
Re: not surprising coming from you |
TheEmissary |
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Apr 13, 01:51 |
Re: not surprising coming from you |
IMAPC |
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Apr 13, 07:45 |
Re: not surprising coming from you |
Dades |
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Apr 13, 09:33 |
Re: not surprising coming from you |
nin |
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Apr 11, 20:12 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
nin |
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Apr 11, 22:17 |
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Elf Shot The Food |
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Apr 11, 22:23 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
nin |
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Apr 11, 20:13 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
eRe4s3r |
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Apr 11, 22:54 |
Here's an explanation and fix for your GFWL problem. |
hb3d |
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Apr 11, 23:56 |
GFWL |
Darth Guybrush |
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Apr 12, 11:08 |
Re: Here's an explanation and fix for your GFWL problem. |
eRe4s3r |
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Apr 12, 21:45 |
Re: Here's an explanation and fix for your GFWL problem. |
hb3d |
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Apr 11, 23:59 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
HorrorScope |
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Apr 12, 09:14 |
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Kristian Joensen |
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Apr 12, 09:36 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
necrosis |
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Apr 12, 10:16 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
Prez |
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Apr 12, 10:21 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
Verno |
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Apr 12, 10:29 |
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InBlack |
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Apr 12, 10:42 |
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Verno |
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Apr 11, 20:23 |
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Cutter |
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Apr 12, 00:00 |
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HorrorScope |
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Apr 11, 20:41 |
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NegaDeath |
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Apr 11, 20:46 |
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Sepharo |
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Apr 11, 21:42 |
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Darks |
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Apr 11, 21:46 |
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Sepharo |
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Apr 11, 21:54 |
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Dades |
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Apr 11, 22:05 |
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Darks |
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Apr 11, 22:09 |
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Sepharo |
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Apr 11, 22:10 |
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NKD |
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Apr 11, 22:51 |
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Spaced |
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Apr 12, 00:04 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
HorrorScope |
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Apr 12, 00:43 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
NegaDeath |
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Apr 11, 23:59 |
There is always Origin! |
Darth Guybrush |
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Apr 12, 01:05 |
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Pete |
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Apr 12, 08:34 |
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Eccentric |
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Apr 12, 08:46 |
Re: Dark Souls GFWL Petition |
theyarecomingforyou |
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Apr 12, 22:50 |
You're 0 for 5 on Games for Windows Live. |
IMAPC |
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Apr 13, 08:52 |
Re: You're 0 for 5 on Games for Windows Live. |
Verno |
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Apr 12, 08:58 |
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SXO |
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Apr 12, 09:34 |
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necrosis |
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Apr 12, 18:53 |
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saluk |
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Apr 12, 22:03 |
This is not simply a matter of DRM choice. |
hb3d |
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Apr 13, 19:39 |
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Rea1One |
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Apr 16, 18:24 |
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Dwarf-Snowninja |
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