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"No Plans" for Max Payne 3 Demo

Rockstar Games tweets about plans for a sample of their upcoming third-person shooter sequel, or lack thereof: "There are no plans for a demo of Max Payne 3." Thanks GameSpot.

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24. Re: "No Plans" for Max Payne 3 Demo Apr 11, 2012, 09:52 Ant
 
No demo? No buy from me. I need a playable sampler first.  
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23. Re: Apr 11, 2012, 09:44 fatguy
 
As much as Im looking forward to this game I cant help but think a short demo wont be released because itll be 1/3rd of the total campaign length.  
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22. Re: Apr 11, 2012, 07:01 Beamer
 
Jerykk wrote on Apr 11, 2012, 01:54:
Wonder what HL3 will be, then, eh? Yeah, it's got multiplayer, but I'm not convinced it can rely upon old-school multiplayer styles anymore.

I doubt HL3 will be a standard 5-hour SP experience. It will likely be around 20 hours and have a fair amount of gameplay variety, as the previous games did (something that can't really be said of most shooters these days). If any shooter could get away with being completely linear and scripted, it would be HL3.

As much as I agree with your last line, I don't think Valve would ever be happy doing what they've always done (or what everyone else does.)
 
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21. Re: Apr 11, 2012, 01:54 Jerykk
 
Wonder what HL3 will be, then, eh? Yeah, it's got multiplayer, but I'm not convinced it can rely upon old-school multiplayer styles anymore.

I doubt HL3 will be a standard 5-hour SP experience. It will likely be around 20 hours and have a fair amount of gameplay variety, as the previous games did (something that can't really be said of most shooters these days). If any shooter could get away with being completely linear and scripted, it would be HL3.
 
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20. Re: Apr 10, 2012, 18:10 Beamer
 
Jerykk wrote on Apr 10, 2012, 01:01:
I wonder how well MP3 will actually sell. It will almost inevitably be short, linear and scripted and games like that haven't been selling very well as of late (and no, CoD doesn't count because its multiplayer is the primary selling point).

Yeah, you saw a lot of editorials about that in the past, but it seems much more true these days. They cost too much to make and people get too little out of them.

Wonder what HL3 will be, then, eh? Yeah, it's got multiplayer, but I'm not convinced it can rely upon old-school multiplayer styles anymore.
 
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19. Re: "No Plans" for Max Payne 3 Demo Apr 10, 2012, 15:39 Trevellian
 
"No Plans" for me purchasing this game without a Demo.  
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18. Re: "No Plans" for Max Payne 3 Demo Apr 10, 2012, 11:33 Jivaro
 
In today's world of Youtube, speaking only for myself and not automatically assuming everybody else feels the same way, I find a demo isn't all that necessary. A demo that is released before a game is released might encourage me to be an early adopter if it "wows" me, but a game without a demo just means I will have to see it in action, often via video, before I would even consider buying it. Preferably a player video and not a review or company PR video.

Would an actual hands on demo be better? Of course. Do I really need it to make a buying decision? Nope. I am a huge fan of both of the first 2 games, but the marketing videos I have seen so far have not made me very excited about this game. The lack of a demo means that I won't be buying the game day 1, and it will take some pretty good fan videos and reviews to convince me to buy it at all. When I do, and if I do, it will probably be on sale.

Pirating just gives companies torrent numbers to base stupid decisions on, so even if I didn't think of piracy itself as a bad thing (which I do), I wouldn't pirate the game...even if I was only going to "try it out". The last message I want to send to Rockstar is "I stole it because I loved the game but didn't want to pay for it"...and that is exactly what all of these companies seem to believe piracy/torrent numbers indicate. They are wrong, but it is what they choose to believe. Disinterest, simply not buying, pirating, or playing the game at all would send a much stronger, and accurate, message. Never in a billion years will people stop pirating for such a sane reason as that, I know. But I can dream right?
 
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17. Re: Apr 10, 2012, 07:55 Luke
 
Sepharo wrote on Apr 10, 2012, 01:06:
Jerykk wrote on Apr 10, 2012, 01:01:
I wonder how well MP3 will actually sell. It will almost inevitably be short, linear and scripted and games like that haven't been selling very well as of late (and no, CoD doesn't count because its multiplayer is the primary selling point).

It's got a lot of brand recognition even for people who haven't played the first two and of course Rockstar's name won't hurt either.

Sure just like The duke.... i think they are affraid of negative comments on the demo and loosing money that way it will be a console port thats the trend , miss the times when games were made with passion Laugh2
 
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16. Re: Apr 10, 2012, 02:58 Jerykk
 
Me either.... This isn't a real Max Payne game. It's Rockstar's version of Max Payne = GTA with Max Payne look...

Uh, do you actually know anything about the game? It's not open-world and you don't drive any vehicles. It's not like GTA at all.
 
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15. Re: Apr 10, 2012, 02:20 Capitan
 
Jackplug wrote on Apr 10, 2012, 01:45:
I didnt like the look of 2nd one, so I cant see my buying the 3rd.
Me either.... This isn't a real Max Payne game. It's Rockstar's version of Max Payne = GTA with Max Payne look...
 
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14. Re: Apr 10, 2012, 01:45 Jackplug
 
I didnt like the look of 2nd one, so I cant see my buying the 3rd.  
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13. Re: Apr 10, 2012, 01:06 Sepharo
 
Jerykk wrote on Apr 10, 2012, 01:01:
I wonder how well MP3 will actually sell. It will almost inevitably be short, linear and scripted and games like that haven't been selling very well as of late (and no, CoD doesn't count because its multiplayer is the primary selling point).

It's got a lot of brand recognition even for people who haven't played the first two and of course Rockstar's name won't hurt either.
 
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12. Re: Apr 10, 2012, 01:01 Jerykk
 
I wonder how well MP3 will actually sell. It will almost inevitably be short, linear and scripted and games like that haven't been selling very well as of late (and no, CoD doesn't count because its multiplayer is the primary selling point).  
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11. Re: Apr 10, 2012, 00:55 Sepharo
 
JohnBirshire wrote on Apr 9, 2012, 23:00:
I had a computer programming class in High School where all we did was plan GTA2 over the LAN everyday.

For "1st hour" my senior year I was in an online AP class. Basically all 20 of the smart kids got to pick an online college course to take, mine was AP Macroeconomics. A supervisor would sit in the class and grade papers or read magazines as we lanned Wolf:ET every single day. The monitors did not face the supervisor, I guess because it was the first year they got some labs and they didn't know what they were doing. Every now and then the supervisor would look up because someone randomly cursed loudly and they would have to explain that they were frustrated with a problem and apologize.

I never did one bit of work in that class, totally failed and accepted it early on. I had a no homework policy in highschool and still graduated with a 3.3. They don't expect you to use the "AP classes get a grade point up" policy to turn D's to C's and E's to D's. Slack hard.

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10. Re: Apr 9, 2012, 23:34 Tony!!!
 
It's a Rockstar game and it's Max Payne. Nuff said. I don't need a demo or to make excuses favoring theft.  
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9. Re: Apr 9, 2012, 23:22 NKD
 
"No Plans" for me buying anything Rockstar shovels at us.  
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8. Re: "No Plans" for Max Payne 3 Demo Apr 9, 2012, 23:00 JohnBirshire
 
I had a computer programming class in High School where all we did was plan GTA2 over the LAN everyday.  
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7. Re: Apr 9, 2012, 22:54 fawker
 
zero day DLC is assured, however  
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6. Re: Apr 9, 2012, 21:36 nin
 
KTR wrote on Apr 9, 2012, 20:21:
I am not surprised. I don't even recall the last R* game that had a demo.

I think there was a demo for GTA 1 or 2?

 
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5. Re: "No Plans" for Max Payne 3 Demo Apr 9, 2012, 21:24 Blackhawk
 
There have been three periods of demos. The 90s through the early 2000s were the era of the free demo. Every game had one, and they begged people to try them out as a way to introduce their new game to the public.

The mid 2000s saw the worst trend - demos used as incentives. This period saw companies offering access to demos as incentives to pre-order, as rewards for registering and so on. Instead of them trying to get us to play their demos, they actually had gamers essentially paying to be advertised to.

The last four or five years, though, has seen the demise of the demo. They are the exception rather than the rule, unless you're talking indie. For mainstream titles it is more remarkable when there IS a demo than when there isn't. 'No demo' is the default answer these days.
 
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