NegaDeath wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:52:

Yifes wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:43:
Uh you do see humans merge with synthetics. Watch the synthesis ending again.

To be sure I didn't miss anything I watched it again on youtube. Reapers take off just like blue ending, green energy spreads, Joker and EDI walk out of Normandy looking normal. No shots of any people changing form or looking different. What part are you referring to?

NegaDeath wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:52:

Yifes wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:43:
Uh you do see humans merge with synthetics. Watch the synthesis ending again.

To be sure I didn't miss anything I watched it again on youtube. Reapers take off just like blue ending, green energy spreads, Joker and EDI walk out of Normandy looking normal. No shots of any people changing form or looking different. What part are you referring to?

NegaDeath wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:52:

Yifes wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:43:
Uh you do see humans merge with synthetics. Watch the synthesis ending again.

To be sure I didn't miss anything I watched it again on youtube. Reapers take off just like blue ending, green energy spreads, Joker and EDI walk out of Normandy looking normal. No shots of any people changing form or looking different. What part are you referring to?

Yifes wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:43:
Uh you do see humans merge with synthetics. Watch the synthesis ending again.

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:29:
If it wasn't for your UID, I'd think you're a paid EA-biodrone troll trying to say "everything is grand, and fully fills all the plot holes" by doing the same cinematic sequences with coloured lights.

When I read a book, the ending is there. I just finished playing BG, and the epilogue was sure a cinematic but it fit the story. When I play PS:Torment, the ending is a cinematic but the actual choices I make in the game determine what happens and how I get there, and what happens to everything in between. When I completed BG2/TOB the same deal happens, but my choices through those games also decide what happens based on my alignment. BGTOB was a 'three choice option' but did it very well.

NegaDeath wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:37:

Yifes wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:20:
You do see the results of your choice. You see the reapers getting destroyed, or you see them leaving, or you see the new results of merging organics with synthetics. Just because the game doesn't hold your hand and spell out every little detail of how every character lived happily ever after doesn't mean there's no resolution. If you need that kind of conclusion, go read Harry Potter.

Sorry but no. You don't see humans merge with synthetics. You see Reapers move upwards, that doesn't mean they left. You see some Reapers collapse but see nothing happen to the Geth or EDI. It doesn't have to be happy, the entire game was about the situation being unhappy. A complete lack of information about the results of your choices is sloppy. A book is not a fair comparison, I can't control the choices in that book. We saw the results of our actions throughout the entire series, why is it wrong to want that for the final, ultimate decision?

The funny thing is, and mark my words here, people are going to disagree with whatever BioWare adds in this "fix" and demand another one. People should be careful what they wish for. BioWare's ideas for what happens after that ending everyone hates might not agree with what you want.

Yifes wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:20:
You do see the results of your choice. You see the reapers getting destroyed, or you see them leaving, or you see the new results of merging organics with synthetics. Just because the game doesn't hold your hand and spell out every little detail of how every character lived happily ever after doesn't mean there's no resolution. If you need that kind of conclusion, go read Harry Potter.

Yifes wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:18:
Try to think about your actions within context of the story, instead of just watching a cutscene. It's a whole game, and the end cutscene is just a part of the ending. I know its hard, but try not to let the pretty flashing lights distract you, k?

NegaDeath wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:15:
How can something even be considered a choice when you don't get to see the results of that choice? What if the kid was completely lying? What if it was a stupid Matrix Reloaded type trick where everything you knew was just another form of control?

Creston wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 15:01:

Yifes wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 13:52:
But the choice that you made is what matters, and those were 3 very different choices.

3 very different choices!

:-yawn-:

Creston

SXO wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 14:13:
It would be quite powerful if it made sense. Explain to me how Joker and the crew got to the relay before it exploded, used it to jump to another system, and survived the explosion of the relay in that system to end up crash landing on a habitable system. As for the catalyst, it only makes sense if you don't try to make sense of it. And this is just scratching the surface of how ridiculous the ending(s) is/are.

Yifes wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 13:52:
But the choice that you made is what matters, and those were 3 very different choices.

I don’t know much about this one. I’m just not a big enough ME fan to know what’s supposed to happen when a Mass Relay explodes.

What I do know is that you can let yourself get bogged down by details like how long a Star Destroyer is or how many innocent people Luke murdered when he destroyed the Death Star

Dr. D. Schreber wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 14:30:
Did the Reapers just drop nukes onto the Wards and sterilize the entire place, or did they want to catch all the humans living there first to throw into the goo bank?