Yifes wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 12:30:
Your choices drastically changes how the story ends for many of the key characters in the series (ie. Tali, Legion, Wrex, Mordin, etc). The final sequence is just the ending to Shepard's story.

What are you talking about? How is destroying all the reapers, controlling the reapers, and merging with the reapers "ONE" ending?

Paketep wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 12:10:
What?. There's ONE ending, it's red, green or blue. And there's a possible 3 second epilogue if you got enough war assets, that is, if you played multiplayer.

What's wrong with the ending?. What's wrong is they said during months how there were LOTS of ending depending on the MANY decisions you made during the games. How those decisions had HUGE repercussions. And in the end, all those decisions had -30/+30 war assets repercussions, and the end was basically "fuck you and fuck everything you did during those 100/120 hours you played, this is the end we decided, and fuck you if you don't like it".

What's wrong with the ending?. What's wrong is they said during months how there were LOTS of ending depending on the MANY decisions you made during the games. How those decisions had HUGE repercussions. And in the end, all those decisions had -30/+30 war assets repercussions, and the end was basically "fuck you and fuck everything you did during those 100/120 hours you played, this is the end we decided, and fuck you if you don't like it".

The next game can take place several hundred years in the future and the mass relays can be rebuilt with the help of the prothean survivor you have as a crew mate.

LurkerLito wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 11:59:
The next game can take place several hundred years in the future and the mass relays can be rebuilt with the help of the prothean survivor you have as a crew mate.

Yifes wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 11:40:
I know. Its lazy from an animation standpoint, but they are drastically different plot wise, and there are ~16 different endings depending on your choices. The ending I chose was quite satisfactory for my Shepard.

Bhruic wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 11:05:
The Protheans did create a functional mass relay, even if it was a completely different type that absolutely broke the way mass relays functioned in the first place. So if people accepted that (which surprisingly they did), they could wave their hands and say "magical space pixies fixed the mass relays", and people shouldn't have a problem with it.

MacLeod wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 11:34:
Have you played it multiple times? Because it really comes down to red, blue or green. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPelM2hwhJA

Yifes wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 11:24:
Late to the discussion since I just finished ME3, but all those quibbles aside, what's wrong with the ending? I pretty much agree with Penny-Arcade, it was a damn good game overall, ending included.

Verno wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 11:20:
Just speaking generally for a second since we don't have another ME3 topic for a change, I actually really enjoyed ME3. It was such a great game overall and I almost feel bad that the shitty ending has overshadowed it.

My beefs were the companion choices this time (the second game feels entirely pointless), the limited mission types and fewer opportunities to actually use your built up paragon/renegade influence. I wasn't really sold what they did with TIM and Cerberus either. Cerberus felt way too numerous, I think they had a larger army than Earth as a whole. It felt really inconceivable that anyone could hold out long against the Reapers (lame name) given how dominant and powerful they are displayed as.

But all of those things are minor quibbles, they got a lot more right this time. The levels felt a lot bigger, the Citadel was a place again instead of 4 corridors, it had a functional helmet toggle, the combat stuff was well done even if the one butan approach got in the way a lot. Lots of nice callbacks and conclusions to stuff, few bugs, a minigame that isnt totally detestable and so on. Damn shame they screwed up the ending so badly.

So if people can stomach the concept then I think they'll accept whatever reasoning is given for the inevitable rediscovery of more relays or the underlying technology.

MacLeod wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 10:08:
Well, yea, there's a lot more pressing problems with the ending, but I was just looking at it from a going-forward standpoint. No mass relays are a big deal. I'm not sure they can really just handwave it away, considering that it seems they've established that the other races have no clue how to build them (since they only use the originals). It'd be a pretty big leap to say that we've either created new relays or all of a sudden have ships capable of doing it themselves.

MacLeod wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 09:43:
I still don't know how they purposefully wrote themselves into a corner with their universe... all the mass relays being destroyed... well that's great, how are you going to ever do another game in the same universe now, when there's no way to get from system to system?

And I still say that the whole indoctrination theory, even if that wasn't what the actual plan was, they should have just came out and said "Damn... you caught us... we didn't think anyone would catch that until we released our first DLC. *whispers to dev team* scrap everything and work on this story!". Because that idea is 100x more creative than their A, B or C endings.

El Pit wrote on Apr 5, 2012, 10:26:
Possible changes in the "Extended Cut"
1) There IS a cake!
2) No more green explosions all over the universe. Instead: RED explosions!
3) Bobby wakes up. It was all just a bad dream.
4) The God kid in the end starts singing "Don't fear the reaper".
5) You can tell the God kid to stop restarting the matrix every 50,000 years and do some homework instead.