space captain wrote on Mar 24, 2012, 09:02:
im sitting in my poop and it feels good its how i roll

Dmitri_M wrote on Mar 23, 2012, 18:59:
People around here can be really clueless about the technicalities of their hobby.

venomhed wrote on Mar 23, 2012, 20:37:
FUCk this is a waste of time.

Linux and OSX? Just tell them to Boot camp their systems, save the money and time for the PC. Linux hates games and Mac's don't care either.

nin wrote on Mar 23, 2012, 11:11:

Whoo hoo!

venomhed wrote on Mar 23, 2012, 20:37:
FUCk this is a waste of time.

Linux and OSX? Just tell them to Boot camp their systems, save the money and time for the PC. Linux hates games and Mac's don't care either.

Carcifier wrote on Mar 23, 2012, 15:55:
I would expect Icewind Dale, slightly modernized. How could you expect more with the money they've got to work with?

eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 23, 2012, 17:15:
Infinity Engine era graphics were all modeled textured and lit in a 3d-suite, then rendered to tiles and put together as a "map" - that is so far beyond "indy" that it would have been hilarious.

eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 23, 2012, 17:15:
Infinity Engine era graphics were all modeled textured and lit in a 3d-suite, then rendered to tiles and put together as a "map" - that is so far beyond "indy" that it would have been hilarious. To even make 1 decent map region you'd have to hand-craft an entire tile-set with thousands of objects and hundreds of custom texture shaders in a 3d-app, render it properly, split it into tiles properly, then draw collision and interaction boxes by hand and hope it looks at least half-way connected. Not to mention rendering everything with actual transparency (like trees you can walk under) SEPARATE then placing it by hand.

Of course, thats completely ignoring placing of glow/light sources if you use 3d-models for characters, and post-editing the entire resulting mess to look coherent and without artifacts, weird connections, non adapted light situations etc.

It would be easier to make a scene in real-time 3D than what Infinity Engine did. Remember, they did that because 3D was too slow for their scene sizes. It had the side effect that you can't zoom, because tiles are a set resolution and scaling of thousands with any kind of up or down scaling of tiles would create horrible artifacts at the seams.

So no, Infinity Engine graphics are out of reach for this project, by far.

Dev wrote on Mar 23, 2012, 15:14:
They've setup Paypal now to take payments. So the people who were complaining about not taking paypal, well its here now.

Carcifier wrote on Mar 23, 2012, 15:55:
They're obviously not going to use a triple AAA engine. It's a top down perspective. As far as I know, it might not even be 3D accelerated. I'm sure they're going to use something that already exists. Possibly a "open" engine, I'm guessing.

The point is, the emphasis does not appear to be on visuals, at least not cutting edge ones.

I would expect Icewind Dale, slightly modernized. How could you expect more with the money they've got to work with?

The music should be good. The writing should be good. The gameplay will hopefully be good.

nin wrote on Mar 23, 2012, 13:40:

I for one loved Wasteland & the Fallout franchise but I'll be honest I'm expecting more then an "indy budget game"....

I think that's fair, and it's what I assumed also. But I'm sure some folks won't, sadly...

We're really in uncharted waters right now, not only in regards to funding, but what we receive in return, and if it meets expectations.

All we can do is back projects that look realistic in what they can achieve, temper our expectations, and hope for the best...

I for one loved Wasteland & the Fallout franchise but I'll be honest I'm expecting more then an "indy budget game"....