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On Guild Wars 2 Microtransactions

The ArenaNet Blog has a post by Mike OíBrien discussing microtransactions in Guild Wars 2, their upcoming MMORPG. He explains: "We have a new player-driven market that allows players to trade gold for gems and gems for gold. If you want something, whether itís an in-game item or a microtransaction, you ultimately have two ways to get it: you can play to earn gold or you can use money to buy gems. We think thatís important, because it lets more players participate on a level playing field, whether they use their free time or their disposable income to do it." In spite of how the original Guild Wars also used microtransactions, this is not going down well, as demonstrated by the 100+ pages of comments on the Guild Wars 2 Guru Forums on the topic. Thanks Titus_Nefarius.

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42. Re: On Guild Wars 2 Microtransactions Mar 21, 2012, 15:38 Teddy
 
Endo wrote on Mar 21, 2012, 13:53:
Teddy wrote on Mar 21, 2012, 13:39:
That's all very nice, but also 100% conjecture on your part. You have no idea how much anything costs the company or how many sales they require to provide service, or how much they expect to have to make from microtransactions to support the rest of the costs.

As I said, time will tell. Doom and gloom conjecture is neither proof, nor fact.

Not 100% conjecture at all. We know operating costs aren't cheap. We know they're putting in a cash shop with more than what GW1 had, they've already given away that much.

And what makes you think it's doom and gloom? It's simply looking at things realistically. It's certainly not going to drive me away from the game. I've played other cash shop games before, and it's never been the cash shop that caused me to stop. It's always been the gameplay. Personally, I prefer the cash shop model (even if it's somewhat P2W) simply because it lets me keep an account active without paying when I'm not actively playing. Then when I DO play, I can pay to maximize my time. The only time I've ever been pissed off about a cash shop was when City of Heroes went to that model, and they took away perks and chracter slots I'd already paid for.

con∑jec∑ture
   [kuhn-jek-cher] noun, verb, -tured, -tur∑ing.
noun
1.
the formation or expression of an opinion or theory without sufficient evidence for proof.
2.
an opinion or theory so formed or expressed; guess; speculation.
3.
Obsolete. the interpretation of signs or omens.
verb (used with object)
4.
to conclude or suppose from grounds or evidence insufficient to ensure reliability.

Since you seem to lack an understanding of what conjecture is, I provided a definition for you.

You do not know how much operating costs are, you just declare them "not cheap" and assume that's somehow sufficient proof of your point. You do not know what the costs are, how much of each purchase is put toward those costs, or how those costs scale with population size. Again, the claim that they "have" to cross the line with MT's is 100% conjecture on your part.

Find some actual evidence that anything they're going to offer from MT's is going to detract from anyone's enjoyment of the game, and then I'll have reason to believe you. Until then, you've proven nothing and provided nothing to actually back up your argument outside of your own speculation on vague comments made by the developers.
 
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